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LOL. I remember that. The Aussies are very proud of that heritage.
Don't worry OG. I was planning on telling Skell that next Tuesday just doesn't work for me. Being placed on a barge with 200 other immigrants to be picked up later somewhere off the Great Barrier Reef wasn't exactly what I had in mind. Ya know Skell, if you are going to run a con, you can't tell the "con-ee" your plans upfront. You are supposed to do a little sweet talking. So, far Skell, you are not doing a very good job of carrying on that great tradition that comes with your proud heritage. I am very disappointed in you. |
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Here you go. For all of our gun control friends.
Nagasaki mayor dies after shooting - Asia-Pacific - MSNBC.com |
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 Originally Posted by Matt3046
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Did you read that article magprob or just post it based on its title? It said that gin killings are rare. Gun killings in America where everyone has them are far from rare. Our infantile approach of gun control certainly seems to keep the kids in our country safer than those in yours. I'm quite happy to forgo my right to bear arms for that cause.
So let me get it clear. You're saying that if you lose your right to bear arms you become easier for your Government to control? I have heard that train of thinking before. Hard to see the logice in it, but I also find it hard to see the logic in wanting to carry a gun. I really can't believe that you and others think the answer is for everyone to have guns to protect themselves with. It really is like a John Wayne movie isn't it, pilgrim. :) So everything would be rosy if at the time someone else on campus with a semi automatic had of got to this lunatic first and shot him dead before he got the other 30 odd? That makes everything OK because "we got the bast@rd good? We shot him down. God Bless the Second Amendment. We saved ourselves and wiped out a nut case in the process. Wow what a days work". What about the other two who were never saved by this good gun wielding citizen that just saved the day. Is it there fault for not having a gun stuck down there trousers while on their way to class just in case they needed to blow someone's brains out in the name of self protection? That is actually a widely held attitude over there isn't it? Thank God we are about as far away as we can get down here. But that's OK, I'm sure most of you guys are glad we are too ;) |
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Originally Posted by Matt3046
But I will say, that the gun violence in your country is sen as quite an issue by others around the world. |
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Originally Posted by Synnen
But anyway, I completely agree with what you have said in this discussion, especially this part. Growing up, my parents allowed my siblings and me to play whatever video games and didn't control too much of what we watched on TV (which wasn't that much anyways). I have seen people "kill" people in movies. I have "killed" people in video games. But I have never had the urge to buy and gun and shoot someone. My parents never told me directly, "Don't shoot people" but they did teach me how to control my emotions and find better options. That's the biggest problem I think America is conflicted with. As a preschool teacher, I have seen parents that would just as well leave their kids at daycare/school until its time for bed if it was allowed. I have seen parents trying to medicate their children because they might have ADD. When in fact, their child is completely normal... kids are naturally hyper and some parents just can seem to handle redirecting this energy into something positive. I have seen parents that just sit their children in front of a TV all weekend and do nothing constructive with them. I have seen parents buy football tickets and manicures, but their child's shoes are too small. I just think a lot (but not all) of parents try to make parenting as easy as possible, when its not supposed to be. Maybe if more parents stepped up to the job that they themselves have chosen, and try to have more meaningful relationships with their children, so many teens wouldn't feel their only option is suicide or taking a gun to school. Just my opinion. |
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Ashley---I'm not old enough to be president yet. Maybe in 2012 if the US gets rid of the 2 party system (I'm not holding my breath on that). You are soooooo right about the whole idea that parents just don't parent thing. I've seen so many parents that just can't be bothered, and it drives me NUTS.
Skell... you realize that the reason the 2nd Amendment is in our Constitution so that if we ever need to overthrow our government (and that day is coming---oh yes) we have the ability to get weapons to do so? I absolutely do not want the only people in this country able to carry a weapon be the criminals and the cops. That whole idea scares the hell out of me. I have a weapon, I know how to use it---I've never even shot an ANIMAL with it, much less a person. So... having a gun is bad, huh? I think it's having crazy people that's bad. Maybe we should send them all to Australia where they can't get guns! Australia has a huge history of criminals being deported there, and since you already seem to know how to handle them... (you know I'm just playing devil's advocate here, I hope) |
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Hi one and all.
I don't blink an eye at the fact that someone owns a gun and has it in there home. I think it's a personal decsion. For me, I don't want it anywhere near my house. I am so very afraid of having one in my home. I just don't like them. But that's for me and my home. I feel safer without it there. If that makes any sense. Probably not. I do ask though, why is it necessary? If there were stricter controls - would people still want them in their home. I guess I just don't understand the need or desire for having one. If just law enforcemet was allowed to carry them, that would be more than okay with me. But I do respect that my neighbors have that choice and would never try and convince them otherwise, as long as it stays out of my home. Gives me chills and not in a good way. I often wonder how many of these guns actually come in handy during a home invasion. Hubby peridoically will bring up the fact that he wants one. That's nice... NOPE! So he just had to settle for a tattoo ( no there is not a connection). Anyway - NO. I would say to him, okay great, someone is breaking in the house... what are we going to do, ask the intruder, "Hang on a minute, let me get my gun that I have safely tucked away just in case you decided to break in my home, I'll be right back, wait there. Sorry, not trying to be sarcastic, but having a gun in my home, scares me more than not having one. I want us all to be safe, I want us all to have choices, hopefully someday we can have both. |
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