[cal823]

*hugs* love you all

[startover22]

You guys working on anything? All I am working on is summer fun. I got to tell you guys a little something, I thought ohhhh ART... right when this happened.
We were outside finishing up the "sparklers" from fourth of July and we were walking in... I bent down and there he was a pretty Dragon Fly. I said boys look, isn't he beautiful?
I wanted to go and get the camera right away but he got startled and then I said Jett, did he touch you when he flew away? I asked one more time and when he turned around I could see why he wasn't speaking... the DragonFly landed right smack dab in the middle of his lips... He stayed there for more than 30 or 40 seconds! Ohhhhh I wanted a picture of that so bad. But he flew away and then we all just laughed in astonishment... THAT WAS COOL! ;) Hope you all are having a great summer. Hugs to you too Cal!

[Clough]

Hopefully, a unique opportunity like that for a great picture will present itself again, starty!

[startover22]

Hopefully, a unique opportunity like that for a great picture will present itself again, starty!

Thanks for the good wishes, I am hoping it will come to be true. It would have been a great pic. What have you been working on clough?

[jrebel7]

This is not my work but just had to share it with you all. It is such an interesting concept. Hope you enjoy!

THIS IS SO FASCINATING...


Drawing of a woman from the inside out... INCREDIBLE!!



http://fcmx.net/vec/get.swf?i=003702

[Clough]

Well, that certainly was interesting, Jan! Sort of looked like the artist of that kept changing his/her mind a number of times as far as what was being created.

[startover22]

That is done trough the computer? That was very neat. Thanks Reb!

[jrebel7]

That is done trough the computer? That was very neat. Thanks Reb!

Yes, I am sure it was done through the computer. Not sure how. It was just neat to me to see it begin as a spine and skull, bones, then muscle, then flesh then clothes. There were a few moments in there I was not sure this would be appropriate to show here but then as it kept developing, it just showed a lot of creativity, I thought, on the part of the person doing it.

I have a friend who does computer art who shows at the art show I do in Oct. but his is on canvas, just done on photo shop type program but looks like hand painted, nothing with movement. His computer art sales better than a lot of the "fine art" pieces. They are really beautiful.

The creativity in some people just astounds me. Hope this was okay to share here even though it had it's moments. LOL :o :o :o

[jrebel7]

Well, that certainly was interesting, Jan! Sort of looked like the artist of that kept changing his/her mind a number of times as far as what was being created.

I agree, looked like the artist did have a number of ideas running through his/her mind before the finished product.

Yep, it took some interesting directions at times, didn't it? I have been working on paintings that went through many changes before arriving at what I truly wanted to present.

Fascinated me though to see the spine, skull and the development from that point, kept me guessing a lot to the end. :p

[WVHiflyer]

I peeked in the Art subject before, but couldn't answer any or the questions. Now I find that y'all are willing to see our own art... I'm going to try and see if I can manage to post 1 here. (This old pencil drawing of Mel Blount is the only one of my art I have on my 'puter - it was scanned >10 yrs ago w/ Win95 and has some pixel errors.)

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[jrebel7]

I peeked in the Art subject before, but couldn't answer any or the questions. Now I find that y'all are willing to see our own art.... I'm gonna try and see if I can manage to post 1 here. (This old pencil drawing of Mel Blount is the only one of my art I have on my 'puter - it was scanned >10 yrs ago w/ Win95 and has some pixel errors.)

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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Talk about talent, you got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These drawings are great. I am so glad you decided to post. That is what this is all about, sharing with one another! Amazing! :p

[Clough]

Yes, talent and ability are abounding in you! Thanks for posting an image of what you did, WVHiflyer! :)

[bushg]

Yeah, I agree with the others it is pretty great. What intensity in his eyes, in the set of his mouth... lol I would hate to have that staring at me from the other side of the line.

[WVHiflyer]

Thanks y'all. I needed that. :o I'm trying to make some extra cash selling this type but I just don't know how to market myself. I've always had a prob setting a price on my art. I can draw anything but the handicap is that I need pics to do it (Blount was from 2 newspaper pics).

startover22 - who's your team?


Thanks again.


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[Clough]

jrebel7, who do many types of art, also does pencil drawings and sells them. I'm sure that she could give you a clue as to how much you might be able to sell yours that you produce that you would like to sell.

One thing that I would like to caution you about though, is that if you are indeed copying images from another source, and then selling what you have produced, there might be possible copyright issues there, even though what you have produced are not are exact replicas of the images.

[startover22]

Thanx y'all. I needed that. :o I'm trying to make some extra cash selling this type but I just don't know how to market myself. I've always had a prob setting a price on my art. I can draw anything but the handicap is that I need pics to do it (Blount was from 2 newspaper pics).

startover22 - who's your team?


Thanx again.


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I have been in love with the Patriots for a very long time now...
But
Since I live with a Seahawks fan, I have been a big supporter of them too, I even have a stupid coin purse that I hold my money in my purse with.
Either way, if I can just say something that no other person normally says, I have no problem rooting for either team, if they make a great play I clap my hands or yell out. I can't help but to think how amazing these players are. It doesn't really matter what team it is, I just really like a good game. On the other hand, I would hate to see the Pats loose or the Hawks! Nice work again, sure talent there in your artwork!

[jrebel7]

Thanx y'all. I needed that. :o I'm trying to make some extra cash selling this type but I just don't know how to market myself. I've always had a prob setting a price on my art. I can draw anything but the handicap is that I need pics to do it (Blount was from 2 newspaper pics).

startover22 - who's your team?


Thanx again.


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Hi there!
Below is a link that might get you started on researching copyright law.

Copyright information

While I was at the Met in New York, there were artists set up on the floor, copying the Master Artist's famous work. As long as they did not use the exact size of canvas that the original painting was painted on, the piece was considered their own work.

A lot of artist's view a photo and work from that but the art creation is a different medium, size, and each artist has their own style so it is not a "COPY" of the original. You would not be allowed by law to have reprints of the photograph made and sell them but your rendition of the photo is your own.

I was commissioned to do a drawing of a photograph that had been in a Newspaper in another state. I was going to do a write up after posting on my web site so called the newspaper to see what was legal for me to use from their article. The gal told me I could not copy it word for word, nor could I use any details that would not have been public knowledge at the onset of the story but I could use information such as city, state, general description of incident and not be in breech of copyright. There was no problem with my using their photograph from the newspaper.

I know this does not answer your question of copyright but hope it helps in some way. You have an amazing talent, that hopefully you will develop and hope you won't let the concern of copyright be a stumbling block but instead research a bit more, call an attorney if there is a series of drawings you are wanting to do of sports players, for example, from photographs and usually attorneys will give a free on phone consultation of general information if it is not lengthy.

I am not encouraging you to just not worry about the issues of copyright, but goodness, with such talent, check it out with an attorney so will know your boundaries legally then go full steam ahead. :)

I don't know how much information the following link would be to you but looks like might be worth a try to get you started on getting more comfortable regarding selling your art work done by looking at a photograph that probably is copyrighted. Much success to you in finding information and please post more of your work.

Get a Copyright - LegalZoom

[WVHiflyer]

jrebel7 - thanks for the info. That was basically my understanding of drawing from photos, but to be safe I've been flying a bit under the radar (like going into bars andm after checking w/ bartender, peddling to patrons - mostly during football season <G>) I'll check those sites - couldn't before because of no access. I donated a few ftbl pics and some wildlife watercolors to my lake club's women's club for them to try and sell. They occasionally show up on e-bay (and she was going to try another similar site too). Shouldn't be a problem legally since I didn't make any money. (Hope)

Thanks again for the encouragement. Now if I can only get it together to get a scanner. The one I used on my old 386 wouldn't even load on W95...


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[jrebel7]

jrebel7 - thanx for the info. That was basically my understanding of drawing from photos, but to be safe I've been flying a bit under the radar (like going into bars andm after checking w/ bartender, peddling to patrons - mostly during football season <G>) I'll check those sites - couldn't before because of no access. I donated a few ftbl pics and some wildlife watercolors to my lake club's women's club for them to try and sell. They occasionally show up on e-bay (and she was gonna try another similar site too). Shouldn't be a problem legally since I didn't make any money. (Hope)

Thanx again for the encouragement. Now if I can only get it together to get a scanner. The one I used on my old 386 wouldn't even load on W95.....


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I understand why you felt the need to fly under the radar, so to speak! :p

I will share with you what I do. It may not be something you desire but never hurts to hear new ideas or new ways of getting your art "out there". OK, you are from the states, correct? Try to find a printer that does Giclee prints. It is the closest print that you will find to your original. The inks are archival inks, last 100 years, printed on acid free paper, like watercolor paper or handmade paper. I go to my printer with my original piece, unmatted, unframed, sealed with a spray sealer, he then scans the piece and burns me a CD with a .tif and .jpg file image. He keeps the image under my file on his computer so anytime I need prints I can just e-mail or call and tell him how many, what size, if I want black and white or sepia or color, etc. I have small, large, medium prints made of the same piece, note cards with my work on them, book marks with my work on them. He even printed out a portfolio sheet with thumbnail (a little larger than) print of each piece. I had him print out black and whites on one sheet and color on another. They can then be laminated. In order to get into a very specific show I had to produce either my work or a portfolio. My daughter picked up my two sheets, took them, they were judged and I was accepted the first year I applied. If a person gets in to this show, they can pretty much show at any show in the area with out going through all the acceptance stuff. I have a lot of my black and white drawings printed out in Sepia. Makes the piece come alive a little bit, more warmth. When I get the prints I have ordered at a later time, I spray each one with a sealer (not notecards) and let them dry before putting each in a clear bag with a seal. If I am not framing a piece, then I go to local Hobby Store and have them cut a piece of cardboard, just an inch or so larger than the piece with or without mat, purchase roll of shrink wrap. I tape it with packaging tape all around on the back side then use a blow dryer and it shrinks and no wrinkles, piece is protected, nice, clean, neat, ready to sell. The beauty of having a printer do your work like this is that he can do the prints, usually within a day or two so you don't have a lot invested in inventory and don't have to store a lot of inventory.

I won't go on... but hope I have given you some info you can use! :)

[WVHiflyer]

I just checked out some of the other postings... so many do such great stuff. Among my favs were some of work of chek101 (paintings are great!), grammadidi, jrebel7, templelane...

How many sell or do most of y'all do it for enjoyment?


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