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jlisenbe · May 6, 2020, 01:55 PM

Unbridled capitalism is any form of capitalism that has run amok - including the crony variety.

Dear God! Will he ever stop with the nitpicking?

Oh don't wet your pants for goodness sake. If you don't mean it, then don't say it. But I forgot. With you it's always the other guys fault. "He took my statement seriously! How dare he!"

jlisenbe · May 6, 2020, 03:54 PM

Evidently the best the dems have.

Wondergirl · May 6, 2020, 04:00 PM

We know what the repubs are missing, thus the guns.

jlisenbe · May 6, 2020, 04:03 PM

If I only had a...rain...crane...drain...frame...blame...oh well. Poor ole Joe. Trump is not great by any means, but next to Biden, he'll look like a genius.

paraclete · May 6, 2020, 04:21 PM

so be ruled by a mad genius or a forgetfull geriatric, what a choice

Wondergirl · May 6, 2020, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

If I only had a...rain...crane...drain...frame...blame...oh well. Poor ole Joe. Trump is not great by any means, but next to Biden, he'll look like a genius.

Let me know when it starts for Trump. I wanna see it for myself.

jlisenbe · May 6, 2020, 06:18 PM

I think you will be waiting quite a while.

Athos · May 6, 2020, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Oh don't wet your pants for goodness sake."

You are the one wetting his pants which you have been doing ever since you arrived here.

jlisenbe · May 7, 2020, 04:06 AM

Imitation...sincerest form of flattery.

talaniman · May 7, 2020, 07:33 AM

More Dufus stuff.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp

I know, as more people file for unemployment and states can't process the new claims the dufus with holds information to safely open the economy, while publicly saying more people will die and get sick but the economy must open.

No quotes here, but I'm sure you have heard him say it because it's all over the TV.

jlisenbe · May 7, 2020, 07:36 AM

You do realize that most of the economy is and has been open, and most people are still working? I'd love to see your reaction if we really shut down the economy to the point of no gas sales, no electrical service, no police or fire units at work, or no groceries being sold. Are you willing to do away with all of that?

talaniman · May 7, 2020, 08:12 AM

Why should we engage in your hypotheticals when we have reality before us. As you point out most of the economy is open, and as I point out the science to deal with it is there, so my question is why it's not circulated, and implemented? Also we have thrown trillion at it, yet the people are slow to get it...WHY? I can trace most of the issues and a few more to mismanagement and lack of effective execution, but what are your thoughts?

jlisenbe · May 7, 2020, 09:35 AM

What science are you referring to?

talaniman · May 7, 2020, 10:19 AM

This could get you started.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...ess-Plans.html

Questions? I have a lot. Like why isn't this a part of those calls to governors we hear so much about?

jlisenbe · May 7, 2020, 10:46 AM

You haven't heard anyone talking about facemasks, hand washing, and keeping surfaces clean? That kind of sums up what was in the 17 page, small type document you googled and found about 30 minutes ago.

I'm asking what steps you know of that should be implemented but are not being talked about other than just shutting everything down and all of us starving to death.

talaniman · May 7, 2020, 10:54 AM

You forgot the testing for the virus.

jlisenbe · May 7, 2020, 11:02 AM

There's no testing being done in Texas??? Wow. We are testing. Probably could be expanded, but as of a month ago, the number was over a million nationwide.

So again, what are you suggesting we do that is not already being done?

talaniman · May 7, 2020, 11:16 AM

A million tests between 50 states in how many months? That's abysmal in my book, how about yours? As for Texas, having as high as a hospital capacity as anywhere and lower rates of death and infections as most places, the bet is we can reopen slowly. Not sure I agree with that, but boggles my mind that the same tests hospitals use cannot be replicated on a mass scale everywhere. Don't you think mass testing is as important as PPE and all those other mitigation strategies are?

jlisenbe · May 7, 2020, 11:27 AM

It was a million a month ago. It is far past that by now, but I would agree that testing is a key.

talaniman · May 7, 2020, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

It was a million a month ago. It is far past that by now, but I would agree that testing is a key.

Doesn't seem to be much of a priority though even recognizing all that goes into such a massive undertaking. I think knowing who has what goes a long way in determining effective and targeted responses and countermeasures. I shouldn't be so surprised though considering how hard it is getting toilet paper, or watching food being wasted.

Neither makes a bit of sense to me.