[paraclete]

So there is hope that the rest of the tribes will throw off the yoke of primitive socialism .

And we could hope our tribal people could be so enterprising, but it may take another century. You see they don't think big because their culture never called upon them too, their focus is conservation, preserving the past, rather than improving the lot of those trapped in the present. They don't seem to see you can do both. Primitive socialism is a good description, doesn't matter how hard you work, you share everything, even your poverty

[talaniman]

Nice spin to justify the subjugation of the people that have been conquered. If only they would realize it was for their own good. At least be honest and admit you took what they had by force against their will. You don't need whips because you have economic chains in a system you control. Some things never change, just spun differently.

We castigate other countries for being uncivilized and therefore subject to uplifting while the resources are plundered and whole societies subjugated. Iran is a great example of such exploitation, Africa another. First by the Brits and then by America. You wonder why they hate and resist us? Of course we don't care what they think, we do it because we can, and screw them. Primitive socialism indeed. Glad you treat your subjects so well in Australia Clete. Keep patting yourself on the back for trying to help such ungrateful savages.

[paraclete]

Nice spin to justify the subjugation of the people that have been conquered. If only they would realize it was for their own good. At least be honest and admit you took what they had by force against their will. You don't need whips because you have economic chains in a system you control. Some things never change, just spun differently.

We castigate other countries for being uncivilized and therefore subject to uplifting while the resources are plundered and whole societies subjugated. Iran is a great example of such exploitation, Africa another. First by the Brits and then by America. You wonder why they hate and resist us? Of course we don't care what they think, we do it because we can, and screw them. Primitive socialism indeed. Glad you treat your subjects so well in Australia Clete. Keep patting yourself on the back for trying to help such ungrateful savages.

Well, Tal, we don't only help ungrateful savages here, we help our neighbours too, and they are just as ungrateful. You know I don't wonder why they hate and resist you? I can see the results of your policies and the way you wield your whips, you are in no way superior, in fact, yours is a savage society with a thin veneer of sophistication. You elect an emperor and call it democracy, you allow your people to be slaughtered and call it freedom

[talaniman]

We're still working on it Clete, bear with us.

[paraclete]

We're still working on it Clete, bear with us.

Oh, we will Tal, you are our friends, our brothers, we just don't want you exporting your ideas to us

[talaniman]

Well I can't blame you for that, since we seem to be short some good ideas lately. We are smack in the middle of silly season (Election time) which always comes with the rock throwing contest.