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    #101

    Dec 17, 2013, 12:40 PM
    Or Speech could come to Australia. At least the Cowboys are going pretty well here. Different game though.
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    #102

    Dec 17, 2013, 12:44 PM
    Aussie Footie?
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    #103

    Dec 17, 2013, 01:42 PM
    Aussie Footie?
    Yes we do play "football" here, there are a lot of codes because when you come down to it we are not a nation of spectators. Our football choices are as varied as the backgrounds of our immigrant populations. not having many immigrants from the USA we don't play that colourful game you are addicted to
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    #104

    Dec 17, 2013, 01:45 PM
    Yes, Rugby League. There is also Rugby Union and Australian Rules. Rugby Union was played in the US in the early part of this century. It was banned because of the flying wedge V formation. Instead of banning the move they banned the game and invented their own.

    This is much as I remember, but perhaps someone can do the research if they wish.
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    #105

    Dec 17, 2013, 02:12 PM
    which century was that Tutt? according to the research there are 450,000 rugby players in the US, who would have thought? we should send the All Blacks and the Wallabys over for a demonstration tour, they need to learn the hakka so they can toughen up and join the A league. they even allow women to play.

    By the way Tutt you forgot Soccer, a popular game in Australia
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    #106

    Dec 17, 2013, 03:49 PM
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    Or Speech could come to Australia. At least the Cowboys are going pretty well here. Different game though.
    I can watch it from my recliner. Though I'd come much closer to moving down under than up there, I hate winter.
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    #107

    Dec 18, 2013, 05:30 AM
    Winter is awesome. My kids love it ergo I do too. Plus I've always played hockey, every year since I was 4.
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    #108

    Dec 18, 2013, 08:45 AM
    It's come to this. People who couldn't bother to lift a finger to scrutinize the current president but can't their digits far enough up to probe a Republican are disappointed in their Messiah.



    PIERS MORGAN, HOST: You have interviewed every president of my lifetime. Why is Obama facing so much opposition now? Why is he struggling so much to really fulfill the great flame of ambition and excitement that he was elected on originally in 2009?

    BARBARA WALTERS: Well, you’ve touched on it to a degree. He made so many promises. We thought that he was going to be – I shouldn’t say this at Christmastime, but – the next messiah. And the whole ObamaCare, or whatever you want to call it, the Affordable Health Act, it just hasn’t worked for him, and he’s stumbled around on it, and people feel very disappointed because they expected more.

    It’s very difficult when the expectations for you are very high. You’re almost better off when they are low and then they rise and rise. His were very high and they’ve dropped. But you know, he still has several years to go. What does he have, three years, Piers? And, you know, there will be a lot of changes, one thinks in that time.
    I almost feel sorry for her. Almost. Nah, I don't feel sorry for anyone disappointed by The One, we warned you.
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    Dec 18, 2013, 09:18 AM
    Right wing credibility to govern is even more damaged than Obama's and while you guys have loud stiff opposition, he has taken everything you have thrown at him, and rebounded every time.

    What makes you think he won't yet again?
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    #110

    Dec 18, 2013, 09:51 AM
    We don't have to throw anything at Obama, he's shot himself in the foot enough. But it is kind of sad watching so many people not only in denial, but still clinging to hope in The Messiah. Eventually you guys are going to have to come to terms with the fact that everything is not Bush's fault, though that seems unlikely.

    Five Years Later, Democrats Still Blame Bush
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    #112

    Dec 18, 2013, 10:39 AM
    And let me add, new temple of the Messiah adviser John Podesta thinks Republicans are "a cult worthy of Jonestown" (I can hear the ironic amens here already). Oliver Knox at Yahoo News reacts:

    In a notable de-escalation of the White House's rhetorical war on its critics, an incoming senior adviser to President Barack Obama has compared House Republicans and the tea party to the infamous Jonestown cult that was behind one of the worst mass-murders of civilians in history. And then apologized.

    The comment in question came from John Podesta, a veteran of political knife-fights under Bill Clinton. Podesta later apologized on Twitter, saying “my snark got in front of my judgment.”

    “I apologize to Speaker Boehner, whom I have always respected,” Podesta tweeted.

    Still, how is that first comment a de-escalation, you ask, quite reasonably? Well, it really wasn't that long ago that the White House was unrepentantly comparing the House GOP and the tea party to terrorists with bombs strapped to their chests. This is arguably a little less inflammatory. The United States isn't waging a global military campaign against cults, after all. Or that could just be my snark getting in front of my judgment?
    I guess there's hope after all. Next thing you know libs will stop stalking Republicans at funerals.
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    #113

    Dec 18, 2013, 12:49 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    It's come to this. People who couldn't bother to lift a finger to scrutinize the current president but can't their digits far enough up to probe a Republican are disappointed in their Messiah.





    I almost feel sorry for her. Almost. Nah, I don't feel sorry for anyone disappointed by The One, we warned you.
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    #114

    Dec 19, 2013, 07:34 AM
    It's come to this, the network that made a sensation out of some down home Christians has suspended the dad from its cash cow for expressing his Christian beliefs.

    I suspect he will be back in no time once they finish getting hammered hard enough.
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    #115

    Dec 19, 2013, 08:20 AM
    for expressing his Christian beliefs
    "made controversial comments equating homosexuality with bestiality"

    Yep, those are christian beliefs all right.
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    #116

    Dec 19, 2013, 08:30 AM
    Hello again, Steve:
    Minister suspended 30 days for officiating at son's gay wedding
    I thought you meant THIS dad. He was expressing Christian beliefs too. No, huh?

    excon
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    #117

    Dec 19, 2013, 08:35 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    "made controversial comments equating homosexuality with bestiality"

    Yep, those are christian beliefs all right.
    He equated both with being sinful, not each other.

    What, in your mind, is sinful?

    “Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men,” he says.
    He also stated this:

    “I myself am a product of the 60s; I centered my life around sex, drugs and rock and roll until I hit rock bottom and accepted Jesus as my Savior. My mission today is to go forth and tell people about why I follow Christ and also what the bible teaches, and part of that teaching is that women and men are meant to be together.

    However, I would never treat anyone with disrespect just because they are different from me. We are all created by the Almighty and like Him, I love all of humanity. We would all be better off if we loved God and loved each other.
    That's Christianity.
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    #118

    Dec 19, 2013, 08:38 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:
    I thought you meant THIS dad. He was expressing Christian beliefs too. No, huh?

    excon
    No, he is credentialed by the church and serves at their pleasure, he willfully and knowingly violated their policy. Phil was just talking.
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    #119

    Dec 19, 2013, 08:42 AM
    “Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman
    Nah, he equated them, actually it seems that he puts homosexuality as more sinful than bestiality.
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    #120

    Dec 19, 2013, 08:43 AM
    Phil was just talking.
    So talking is OK? Seems I see a lot of thread here that deal with what people said.

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