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speechlesstx · Feb 16, 2013, 08:33 AM

Bush knew they were atracking that day and went to Florida? So you're a truther, eh?

Obama was right there, with an urgent cable of an imminent threat and did nothing through an 8 hour attack, then sent a stooge out to lie about it.

excon · Feb 16, 2013, 09:25 AM

Hello again, Steve:

Bush knew they were atracking that day and went to Florida? So you're a truther, eh?

Do they have a name for the Benghazi yahoos like you yet? I'm going to invent one.

You're the Benghazi whores. How about Benziphobes? What about Benziniers? Oooh, I like that. Any others?

Excon

talaniman · Feb 16, 2013, 09:58 AM

How about the right wing noise machine? Where facts don't matter just the NOISE.

tomder55 · Feb 16, 2013, 10:32 AM

Just finished the e-book... it's about a 2 hr read ;more like a long essay . Basically it blames Brennan for running covert ops in Libya related to whacking jihadists. Neither the CIA under Petraeus, or Stevens and the State Dept were unaware of these ops .They were carried out from the White House ala Ollie North style. Evidently Zero had little knowledge or interest in Brennan's activities . Brennan it contends kicked a hornets nest and the jihadists ,looking for revenge ,targeted the mission .
The book also claims that General P realized after the attack that he had been out of the loop and effectively resigned weeks before the revelations about his affair. However ,the desk jockeys at CIA were not happy about Petraeus reign there and had found out about his trists from his security contingent ;and had leaked it to the FBI . They set it up so Petraeus could not leave on his own terms ;and they calculated that they had damaged any future run for the Presidency by the General.
Benghazi: The Definitive Report: Brandon Webb, Jack Murphy: Amazon.com: Kindle Store

tomder55 · Feb 16, 2013, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

Do they have a name for the Benghazi yahoos like you yet? I'm gonna invent one.

You're the Benghazi whores. How about Benziphobes? What about Benziniers?? Oooh, I like that. Any others?

excon

I call your side the' Benghazi deniers '.. Evita is the poster person "what difference does it make" ?

speechlesstx · Feb 17, 2013, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

I call your side the' Benghazi deniers '.. Evita is the poster person "what difference does it make" ?

Yet another form of BDS, Benghazi Denier Syndrome.

excon · Feb 17, 2013, 08:55 AM

Hello again, Benziniers:

Yet another form of BDS, Benghazi Denier Syndrome.

This, from people who believe that Obama gave guns to Mexicans so they would kill an American. And, that would piss off the people SOOOOO bad, that Obama could confiscate all the guns..

Okee doakee.

Excon

PS> Since you wingers LOVE Obama conspiracy crap, I'm sure you'll LOVE this.

tomder55 · Feb 17, 2013, 10:30 AM

So far Dr Garrow is a single source so I am not inclined to believe it ;yet . He is in fact a Nobel Peace Prize winner (the same year Obama won it... except Garrow did something to earn it ).He is a renown author and activist... author of "The Pink Pagoda: One Man's Quest to End Gendercide in China". He has rescued thousands of girls from death in China and currently owns and operates over 250 schools there . However ;it is unlikely that the President would make such an overt question without it being confirmed by more than one
2nd hand source.

talaniman · Feb 17, 2013, 10:45 AM

He is entitled to his opinion. Though his logic is flawed in my opinion. I get suspicious with unnamed, high ranking, anonymous sources.

excon · Feb 17, 2013, 10:50 AM

Hello again,

No matter WHO the good doctors is, his SOURCE won't reveal himself.. So, let me talk about his SOURCE.

I'm a businessman/salesman/military veteran... I have vendors ask me, "IF you offered this to your customers, WOULD they buy it?" I answer with a scowl.

In the real world, where the rubber meets the road, that's a question that CANNOT be answered. In fact, in LIFE it can't be answered with certainty.

If I -- would you?

The military doesn't deal with uncertainty. Therefore, the question, would you obey an order if I issued it, would NEVER be proposed in the military! That would be NEVER. The question IMPLIES that there's a CHOICE. In the military, there is NO choice.. The chain of command doesn't want to know if their order, say, to take that hill WILL be obeyed. The chain of command ORDERS it, and the troops COMPLY. There is NO if. On the battlefield, you comply or you get shot.

Therefore, in my view, the question clearly comes from the mind of somebody who has NEVER served, and somebody who wants to stir up trouble.

excon

tomder55 · Feb 17, 2013, 11:06 AM

In the military, there is NO choice

Tell that to Glen Doherty who was denied 3 requests to assist Ambassador Stevens ;and ultimately defied them ;and led a rescue mission to the compound ,that saved over 30 staffers ,and which ultimately cost him his life.
Yes sometimes orders don't get obeyed . The military command is sworn to defend the Constitution and not necessarily follow orders like some drone.

speechlesstx · Feb 17, 2013, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Benziniers:

This, from people who believe that Obama gave guns to Mexicans so they would kill an American. And, that would piss off the people SOOOOO bad, that Obama could confiscate all the guns..

Okee doakee.

excon

Interesting theory, how long did it take for you to make that one up?

excon · Feb 17, 2013, 12:34 PM

Hello again, tom:

Tell that to Glen Doherty who was denied 3 requests to assist Ambassador Stevens

You TOO, are unable to differentiate between an ORDER from a request.. It's FURTHER evidence that the leaker is a PHONY!

Excon

tomder55 · Feb 17, 2013, 12:41 PM

You have no idea who the leaker is or if there even is a leaker. This whole discussion about Garrow is a diversion from the Benghazi issue . For that matter Fast and Furious is not relevant either .

Glen Doherty was told to stand down so he disregarded direct orders .

paraclete · Feb 17, 2013, 02:10 PM

Yeah stay on subject dude

tomder55 · Feb 18, 2013, 10:18 AM

smoothy · Feb 18, 2013, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Benziniers:

This, from people who believe that Obama gave guns to Mexicans so they would kill an American. And, that would piss off the people SOOOOO bad, that Obama could confiscate all the guns..

Okee doakee.

excon

PS> Since you wingers LOVE Obama conspiracy crap, I'm sure you'll LOVE this.

So you are saying Fast and Furious never happened? Not even the Democrat leadership is making that claim.

tomder55 · Feb 25, 2013, 02:27 PM

Good thing we have a new Sec State to clarify the President's foreign policy . I bet even Evita did not know there was a nation called “Kyrzakhstan,” who has been a major ally in the war on terror .
John Kerry gaffe: Secretary of State makes up new country 'Kyrzakhstan' | Mail Online

Imagine the US press if former Sec State Condi Rice had made such a gaff!! If you need an example ,just look at how they trashed Romney over his alleged gaffs on his foreign junkets . Imagine what they would've said if Sarah Palin had said that!!
Hmmm Kyrzakhstan... isn't that where Borat came from ?

paraclete · Feb 25, 2013, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by smoothy

So you are saying Fast and Furious never happened? Not even the Democrat leadership is making that claim.

As far as I can see nothing ever happens over there

smoothy · Feb 25, 2013, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by paraclete

As far as I can see nothing ever happens over there

Not surprised... the curvature of the earth and all.