[talaniman]

You mean third shot since we have a fleet around Iran and the Israeli's have an Iron Dome.

[speechlesstx]

You mean third shot since we have a fleet around Iran and the Israeli's have an Iron Dome.

Not sure how Israel's iron dome is supposed to protect Europe and the US from an Iranian ICBM.

[talaniman]

Should we charge them by the hour or by the missile for their safety, and security needs. I know you aren't talking about free stuff, are you?

[speechlesstx]

Should we charge them by he hour or by the missle for their safety, and security needs. I know you aren't talking about free stuff, are you?

Logistics. I could be wrong but the shortest distance to most of Europe and the US from Iran is not via Israel.

[talaniman]

So we charge them by the mile then?

[speechlesstx]

I guess pictures aren't simple enough.

Iron Dome (Hebrew: כִּפַּת בַּרְזֶל, kipat barzel) also known as "Iron Cap"[7] is a mobile all-weather air defense system[6] developed by Rafael Advanced Defense Systems.[5] It is a missile system designed to intercept and destroy short-range rockets and artillery shells fired from distances of 4 to 70 kilometers away and whose trajectory would take them to a populated area.[8][9] Israel hopes to increase the range of Iron Dome's interceptions, from the current maximum of 70 km (45 miles) to 250 km and make it more versatile so that it could intercept rockets coming from two directions simultaneously.[10]

OK, so how is iron dome supposed to protect us and Europe from an Iranian ICBM?

[paraclete]

OK, so how is iron dome supposed to protect us and Europe from an Iranian ICBM?

I don't expect it is this is why you wanted the bases in Poland, but the US has nothing to fear from Iranian ICBM

[speechlesstx]

I don't expect it is this is why you wanted the bases in Poland, but the US has nothing to fear from Iranian ICBM

Yet.

[paraclete]

The issue is much more about Israel undoubtedly you have antagonised the Iranians by objecting to their nuclear program but they are a middle run power far from anywhere

[speechlesstx]

Back to the OP, Biden insists Dems will continue pushing the assault weapons ban even even though they Reid shelved it after they couldn't muster but 40 votes in the Senate. Ol' Joe played the Gabby Giffords card again today...

Think about what happened out in — where Gabby Gifford, my good friend, was shot and mortally wounded.

Someone get Joe a dictionary.

[NeedKarma]

Yet.

Fear... you must live in constant fear. It's the only way to get an agenda across.

[paraclete]

Paranoia has many forms

[speechlesstx]

Fear... you must live in constant fear. It's the only way to get an agenda across.

Relaying the reported facts and the news that Obama dumped when no one is paying attention is not fear mongering. There's a reason he has perfected the art of the Friday news dump and that's to feign transparency while burying it over the weekend.

WaPo's editorial board is my source and they're no friend to conservatives:

The SM3 IIb missile was significant for two reasons: It was the only interceptor planned for the Europe-based system that could have defended the United States against an attack from Iran; and it was the component of the system most decried by Russia, which claimed that it could be used against its intercontinental missiles.

They called the decision "imprudent."

Still, the fact remains that the United States has removed from its plans the missile that Russian officials previously cited as their foremost concern, just a few months after President Obama promised the Kremlin “greater flexibility” on missile defense after his reelection. In doing so, the administraton has eliminated the possibility of a defensive system that would give the United States two shots at an Iranian ICBM — what in Pentagon jargon is called a shoot-look-shoot capacity. It also has decoupled the European missile system from the defense of the continental United States. These compromises could have made sense as part of a broader agreement with Russia on missile defenses. To undertake them unilaterally, for what are portrayed as purely budgetary reasons, is imprudent.

Everything I've said on this subject has been rational, factual and for your benefit again, current. Now do you have anything besides snark and foolishness to add to the discussion?

[NeedKarma]

Now do you have anything besides snark and foolishness to add to the discussion?

You don't know that keeping a population in fear is a well-worn tactic? That isn't snark and foolishness it's fact: Culture of fear - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I see it day in day out on the Current Events board - spreading fear, uncertainty and doubt to get an agenda across. You use it constantly in conjunction with the tactic of presenting a false dichotomy. None of that is rational discussion.

[speechlesstx]

You don't know that keeping a population in fear is a well-worn tactic? That isn't snark and foolishness it's fact: Culture of fear - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I see it day in day out on the Current Events board - spreading fear, uncertainty and doubt to get an agenda across. You use it constantly in conjunction with the tactic of presenting a false dichotomy. None of that is rational discussion.

Except for the fact that I offered no fear mongering and no false dichotomies you might have a point. Are you just a glutton for punishment?

[NeedKarma]

We'll see. ;-)

[talaniman]

I guess pictures aren't simple enough.



OK, so how is iron dome supposed to protect us and Europe from an Iranian ICBM?

If Europe pays for it then they can get it. Don't you agree? That's all I have made a point of PAY FOR IT!! Why do you keep ducking the money part?

[tomder55]

How mercenary !

[paraclete]

If Europe pays for it then they can get it. Don't you agree? Thats all I have made a point of PAY FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!!! Why do you keep ducking the money part?

I say give them the technology and let them built it under licence, isn't that the way business is done and developments and innovations cost more

[talaniman]

You want a missile you pay full price. There is no fear discount.