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  • Romney

    10 50.00%
  • Obama

    10 50.00%
  • Romney is in denial

    5 25.00%
  • Obama is a communist

    3 15.00%
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    #101

    Oct 5, 2012, 01:05 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    What are the tax deductions, who are they for, what are the deductions and which loopholes will be closed?
    What are Obama's specifics for a 2nd term?
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    #102

    Oct 5, 2012, 01:29 PM
    I don't think the specific deductions are the big point. The additional revenues from the economic growth will negate any concern about any losses from the rate reductions .
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    #103

    Oct 5, 2012, 01:32 PM
    That's a foreign concept tom, increased growth leading to more revenue for everyone including the government.
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    #104

    Oct 5, 2012, 01:58 PM
    Yeah I know . Even though there is a proven track record from JFK ,Reagan ,and GW Bush ,that supply side cuts stimulate the economy ,they don't believe the evidence.
    Any deficit increases from those eras can be directly linked to uncontrolled spending ;not the tax cuts.
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    #105

    Oct 5, 2012, 02:01 PM
    The latest debate theory, Romney cheated.




    There is a scandal brewing that suggests that Mitt Romney used crib notes for the debate. This is of course, C-H-E-A-T-I-N-G! and would be awful if true.

    I believe the candidates are only supposed to have a blank piece of paper (pad) and a pen at the podium, provided by the CPD. No notes, this isn't "open book."

    In a move that might remind many of Joe Niekro 's flying emery board Romney seems to have gotten caught taking notes from his pocket and later unfolding it on the podium.

    Watch Romney's right hand, very early in the video starting at 0:00:09

    Mitt takes something out of his pocket and tosses it on the podium. It seems as if he maybe using his body to try and screen the movement. It's very fast, the whole thing is over by 0:00:12
    "Hankygate."
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    #106

    Oct 5, 2012, 02:02 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Yeah I know . Even though there is a proven track record from JFK ,Reagan ,and GW Bush ,that supply side cuts stimulate the economy ,they don't believe the evidence.
    Any deficit increases from those eras can be directly linked to uncontrolled spending ;not the tax cuts.
    I would think that ex, the business owner, would understand that.
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    #107

    Oct 5, 2012, 02:42 PM
    Originally Posted by tomder55
    Yeah I know . Even though there is a proven track record from JFK ,Reagan ,and GW Bush ,that supply side cuts stimulate the economy ,they don't believe the evidence.
    Any deficit increases from those eras can be directly linked to uncontrolled spending ;not the tax cuts.
    Can you specifically define that uncontrolled spending for us please? You may exclude tax cuts for corporations if that helps you, or funding for all the bubbles and crashes that they went through, and the business cycle as well. So what's left? Military? Wars? Booze/women? What are those uncontrolled spending by JFK. Reagan, and Bush?
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    #108

    Oct 5, 2012, 02:48 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    What are Obama's specifics for a 2nd term?
    Deflect, deflect, deflect... NEVER directly answer a question.
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    #109

    Oct 7, 2012, 06:25 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Deflect, deflect, deflect ... NEVER directly answer a question.
    Nope, just waiting for you to answer anything.
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    #110

    Oct 7, 2012, 06:30 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    What are Obama's specifics for a 2nd term?
    Issues - An economy built to last -- Barack Obama

    Where are Romney's specifics?
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    #111

    Oct 7, 2012, 06:31 AM
    This one I believe... Obama sucked because he wasn't allowed to use TOTUS.
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    #112

    Oct 7, 2012, 07:11 AM
    Hello again, Steve:

    Obama sucked because he's a lousy debater. But, he's a GOOD campaigner and Romney isn't.. That's why he's going to WIN.

    excon
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    #113

    Oct 7, 2012, 07:25 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Obama sucked because he's a lousy debater. But, he's a GOOD campaigner and Romney isn't.. That's why he's gonna WIN.

    excon
    That, and his base is clueless.
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    #114

    Oct 7, 2012, 07:40 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    That, and his base is clueless.
    Hello again, Steve:

    I don't know... We don't have congressmen who think slavery was a blessing for black people.. And, we don't have congressmen who think the Big Bang and evolution are 'Lies Straight From The Pit Of Hell'.

    But YOU do.

    excon
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    #115

    Oct 7, 2012, 08:25 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    That, and his base is clueless.
    Yup, that is indeed how it seems the right perceives anyone who does not share their ideology.
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    #116

    Oct 7, 2012, 11:16 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    That, and his base is clueless.

    Is that a straw argument, or a brain fart?
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    #117

    Oct 7, 2012, 11:20 AM
    Man I hope romney wins obamas a comunist and a lier and doesn't eserve another term
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    #118

    Oct 7, 2012, 11:41 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by eman134 View Post
    man i hope romney wins obamas a comunist and a lier and doesnt eserve another term
    Can you define communism?
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    #119

    Oct 7, 2012, 04:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by eman134 View Post
    man i hope romney wins obamas a comunist and a lier and doesnt eserve another term
    What does a spelling challenged 14 year old know about communism?? Or his own government for that matter?
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    #120

    Oct 7, 2012, 06:29 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    What does a spelling challenged 14 year old know about communism??? Or his own government for that matter?
    Well Tal he knows what he has been taught, something about a system that is the only way and a government that is the only way and that despite his personal challenges he is better than anyoneelse. Lots of people confuse socialism with communism, the difference is really in the degree of control over the individual. You can have state owned enterprise without controlling the individual. I think the Chinese have learned this lesson well even if it took forty years

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