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    tomder55 Posts: 1,742, Reputation: 346
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    #1161

    Feb 9, 2014, 07:14 AM
    And here I thought asking someone to carry a photo id was racist . Organized objections to showing ID at the polls are madesolely to enable vote fraud. You know it and I know it .
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    #1162

    Feb 9, 2014, 07:15 AM
    Sorry, but I think failing to protect the integrity of the election is STUPID, STUPID, STUPID, which is odd coming from people that still think Bush stole the 2000 election and suggest, or require as Dems do for their events, ID.
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    #1163

    Feb 9, 2014, 07:26 AM
    Hello again,

    Sorry, but I think failing to protect the integrity of the election is STUPID, STUPID, STUPID,
    If you could only SHOW me wide spread fraud, or even a LITTLE fraud, I'd agree. But, to make a law that protects us from a crime that ISN'T HAPPENING, is STUPID, STUPID, and even STUPIDER than that.

    Plus, BUSH won the election in the COURTS - NOT because right wingers voted twice. How do you NOT know that??

    excon
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    #1164

    Feb 9, 2014, 04:53 PM
    Show me how requiring id is suppression. You guys require it for everything but voting, why is that?
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    #1165

    Feb 9, 2014, 05:00 PM
    What is the problem with voter identification? When I go to the polls I have to identify myself, no problem. It seems you have a high level of chicanery associated with elections but you have so many of them any problems should have been sorted by now. I think it is all an excuse to be racist
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    #1166

    Feb 9, 2014, 05:34 PM
    The Dems can't register illegals if they have to show id .
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    #1167

    Feb 9, 2014, 06:25 PM
    so, why should illegals vote? I thought voting is for citizens
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    #1168

    Feb 9, 2014, 06:53 PM
    Florida's latest voter purge bid draws criticism

    In 2012, at Scott's behest, the state attempted to purge non-U.S. citizens from voter rolls in an effort he said to address voter fraud. The state's list of potential non-citizens began with 182,000 names but later was reduced to as few as about 200. The effort was halted before the presidential election in the wake of opposition from Florida's elections supervisors and a flurry of lawsuits.
    Ensuring integrity with shenanigans? Conservatives lose credibility about voter ID laws when the engage in many other tactics to suppress the vote, AND publicly admit its to WIN elections. Like those guys in PA did.

    Top Pennsylvania Republican Admits Voter ID Helped Suppress Obama Voters | ThinkProgress

    Last year, Pennsylvania Republican House Leader Mike Turzai (R-PA) admitted that voter identification efforts were designed to suppress Democratic votes, telling a Republican Steering Committee meeting that Voter ID “is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done.”Romney ended up losing the state, but Republicans still believe that they successfully kept Democrats from supporting President Obama. As Pennsylvania's GOP Chairman Rob Gleason told Pennsylvania Cable Network earlier this week, the party “cut Obama by 5 percent” in 2012 and “probably Voter ID had helped a bit in that.” Watch it:
    Integrity?? You be the judge.
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    #1169

    Feb 9, 2014, 07:32 PM
    Hello again,

    You know what pisses me off??? Voters who can't read. Talk about voter INTEGRITY. How much integrity can there be when the person voting doesn't even know WHY he's voting??? I don't care if he has an ID or not, I wanna make sure he can read.

    That's fair, isn't it? You don't want DUMMIES voting, do you?

    excon
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    #1170

    Feb 9, 2014, 07:43 PM
    come on ex you know you are either voting for the Elephant in the room or making a Donkey vote, pictures are good enough for this. How many people could read when your nation was formed, it wasn't a requirement then, why should it be a requirement now? Just so you can exclude people from the polls, hell, maybe them red neck republicans can't read, but I expect you thought of that You claim a 99% literacy rate over there EX, that means people can read of course we don't really know what they were measuring do we? being as so many people can't comprehend what they read
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    #1171

    Feb 9, 2014, 08:05 PM
    Heaven forbid the dead lose their right to vote ( liberals think the right to vote doesn't end at death)... or the illegals, or people that aren't even legal residents of that state to vote.

    If anyone cared about fair elections and reducing fraud... they would WANT to make sure everyone voting was entitled to vote.

    And the sob stories about the poor... get real... they need id's to apply for handouts, fod stamps, welfare, SSI , to cash checks, do business with a bank, rent anything, and almost everythig else. They can cough up that same ID at the voting locations as well.
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    #1172

    Feb 10, 2014, 03:15 AM
    there is no comparison between voter id and literacy laws. Citizens are allowed to vote regardless of their literacy rate. There is no inherent hardship in being required to prove you are eligible to vote ,and voter Id is the most logical means to accomplish that .
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    #1173

    Feb 10, 2014, 05:26 AM
    literacy isn't an issue unless the US has been lying to the world about literacy levels, you alledge you have a 99% literacy rate, we can conduct free and fair elections with ID at a literacy rate of 96%, no, this issue is about electoral whorting
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    #1174

    Feb 10, 2014, 07:19 AM
    There is no fraud in purging non-citizens off the voter rolls, they don't have the right to vote.
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    #1175

    Feb 10, 2014, 07:20 AM
    Ex brought it up because in our past ,literacy tests were used to exclude Black voters. It is an irrelevent moot point now because literacy tests have been outlawed as a prerequisite . (Voting Rights Act of 1965)
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    #1176

    Feb 10, 2014, 07:34 AM
    seems all you guys do is rehash history
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    #1177

    Feb 10, 2014, 08:14 AM
    seems all you guys do is rehash history
    Better than rewriting history.
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    #1178

    Feb 10, 2014, 02:02 PM
    oh I think you do a lot of that too
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    #1179

    Feb 10, 2014, 03:07 PM
    oh I think you do a lot of that too
    Both sides do but the left specializes in it.
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    #1180

    Feb 10, 2014, 03:53 PM
    Both sides do but the left specializes in it.
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