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Mar 5, 2013, 04:47 PM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Is that successful? There has been a gradually lessening of people on welfare?
Yes to an extent it has been working and getting people to get into the work force and off welfare rolls. Like with any system it has its problems but it has been chugging along and does have a mainly positive outcome.
The idea is theory is to raise a persons self worth so they can be proud again and want to succeed verses just hanging in there for the long haul.
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Mar 5, 2013, 05:27 PM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
I agree, but how would that work? job coaching? a social worker/counselor assigned to each person to monitor their progress?
Seems to work around here, every fortnight they face an interview about what they have done to get a job and there are reskilling programs as well as specific counselor help if they have disabilities like anxiety, depression, etc
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Mar 5, 2013, 06:19 PM
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 Originally Posted by paraclete
seems to work around here, every fortnight they face an interview about what they have done to get a job and there are reskilling programs as well as specific councellor help if they have disabilities like anxiety, depression, etc
Who pays for that? The government?
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Mar 5, 2013, 06:58 PM
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Yes all part of the service, our government is serious about getting people off the welfare and unemployment queues, they just cut the benefits to single parents with children over 8 and they refuse to lift the unemployment payment, a little while back they changed the rules on disability benefits, and get this, these guys are what you call liberal, we, of course, call them something else
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Mar 6, 2013, 11:16 AM
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From the same state that suggests, whistles, ball point pens and peeing or puking on cue as a defense against rape, a Colorado Democrat lectured a rape victim on rape statistics, telling her the odds are a gun wouldn't have helped:
"I just want to say statistics are not on your side, even if you had had a gun. You said that you were a martial arts student, I mean person, experience in taekwondo, and yet because this individual was so large and was able to overcome you even with your skills, and chances are that if you had had a gun, then he would have been able to get than from you and possibly use it against you," Hudak said.
I'm sorry you moron, I think she deserves the chance to defend herself so as not to become a rape victim. Another Dem, Democratic Strategist Zerlina Maxwell thinks the solution is to teach men not to rape. Perhaps she can start with the UN.
The money quote from Dana Loesch, "There is a war on women, and it’s coming from the left to turn women into victims."
Seriously, what does the left have against women?
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Mar 6, 2013, 11:21 AM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
From the same state that suggests, whistles, ball point pens and peeing or puking on cue as a defense against rape, a Colorado Democrat lectured a rape victim on rape statistics, telling her the odds are a gun wouldn't have helped:
I'm sorry you moron, I think she deserves the chance to defend herself so as not to become a rape victim. Another Dem, Democratic Strategist Zerlina Maxwell thinks the solution is to teach men not to rape. Perhaps she can start with the UN.
The money quote from Dana Loesch, "There is a war on women, and it’s coming from the left to turn women into victims."
Seriously, what does the left have against women?
THey just hate that a woman can fight back... just think if every woman had a gun.. Bill Clinton would not have lived long enough to become president.
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Mar 9, 2013, 06:47 AM
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Mar 9, 2013, 08:10 AM
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Mar 9, 2013, 08:15 AM
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It's a no-brainer, the kid shouldn't have pointed the pastry.
Geez...
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Mar 10, 2013, 03:26 PM
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Mar 10, 2013, 03:40 PM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
My preschool co-teacher took away a toy gun from a student, so the little boy lifted his hand and made the shape of a gun and shot her.
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Mar 10, 2013, 03:43 PM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
My preschool co-teacher took away a toy gun from a student, so the little boy lifted up his hand and made the shape of a gun and shot her.
Was he suspended for pointing his finger?
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Mar 10, 2013, 03:44 PM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Was he suspended for pointing his finger?
Nope, and it was a Christian school too. He is now a Christian teacher.
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Mar 10, 2013, 03:46 PM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Nope, and it was a Christian school too. He is now a Christian teacher.
In other words he didn't become a mass murderer.
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Mar 10, 2013, 03:47 PM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
In other words he didn't become a mass murderer.
Not yet.
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Mar 10, 2013, 03:53 PM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Not yet.
And what's he doing now?
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Mar 10, 2013, 03:56 PM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
And what's he doing now?
Right this minute? I have no idea. I said he's a Christian (parochial) school teacher.
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Mar 10, 2013, 04:02 PM
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Yes you did, sorry. So has he created any mass murderers?
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Mar 10, 2013, 04:24 PM
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The city that Our president hails from, Chicago, has the highest gun/murder rate in the entire Nation. Washington DC is next with the highest gun crime in the nation. This subject is NOT ABOUT GUNS. This debate should be about PEOPLE. Tell me one deterrent in our justice system that would make a career criminal NOT use a gun? NOT ONE. The Death Penalty is all but gone and where it is still on the books, it take years and years and a lot of taxpayer money to get it done, it it actually is done. A decision by the Supreme Court in 2005 states that the police "are not bound by law to PROTECT anyone. Their sole job is to enforce the law."
So who is to protect the people who live in these crime ridden cities... no one. Is it reasonable to think that one should do everything possible, within the law , to protect themselves, their property, and their families? Absolutely. I have no problem with background checks(I went through them when I obtained a carry permit in NY 40 years ago), registering guns and keeping them locked in a safe place in my home or place of business. I have no problem with law abiding citizens carrying a concealed handgun for their own personal protection. There is NO PLACE anywhere in this country, in this day and age, that one can be certain that they are completely safe from crime or criminals. The shootings that spur these "gun control" people, are no perpetrated by law abiding citizens. They are perpetrated by someone who has had a history of crime, a history of mental illness and uses ILLEGALLY obtained guns. The needs to be a national data base of persons with mental disorders that prove to be socially dangerous. Then when background checks are done, that information turns up also. This is an issue of human behavior. Let's face one thing. People in today's world are bombarded every minute of everyday with the sensationalism of crime and it's perpetrators and victims. We know of a murder anywhere in the world within minutes of it happening. We do not need to know that. When "news" was not instantaneous, most things in other countries were not known for months if ever.
I do not care what happens in Timbuktoo. It has nothing to do with the way I live my life here. I am concerned about what happens in my home town and my home State and what our "Representative" are doing in Washington. WE need to stop paying attention and supporting other countries troubles and take care and worry about the citizens of THIS country. A sequester of $85 billion in cuts but the government can authorize $260 Million in aid to a country that would rather see us destroy ourselves than help them.We can be the police of the world but we do not need to be it's wet nurse. Guns are only a crutch for the powers that be to distract us from the real issues.
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Mar 10, 2013, 04:32 PM
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Latest news suggests only 35% of US homes possess guns so it seems gun possession is a minority issue, a very vocal minority but a minority issue nonetheless. If only 35% will be alienated by improved gun control what is stopping government from getting the job done?
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