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    #81

    Jul 9, 2022, 02:23 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Nope. A little less than 90% are in the first trimester.
    "The vast majority of abortions occur in the first trimester, according to the CDC. Nearly 80% of abortions happen at or before 9 weeks gestation and 93% occur at or before 13 weeks."
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/katieje...h=50263d5260a8

    "Of the 1.6 million abortions performed in the U.S. each year, 91 percent are performed during the first trimester (12 or fewer weeks' gestation); 9 percent are performed in the second trimester (24 or fewer weeks' gestation); and only about 100 are performed in the third trimester (more than 24 weeks' gestation), approximately .01 percent of all abortions performed."
    https://www.foxnews.com/story/fast-f...ion-statistics
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    Jul 9, 2022, 02:49 PM
    You do realize that your statement above shows your contention that 99% of abortions take place in the first trimester is wrong? If we take that as an admission of being wrong, then that is indeed progress.

    The Foxnews story is outdated, being from 2015. Still, I said a little less than 90%, and you now say a little above 90%. Oh well. One way or the other, I'm not sure what difference it makes. Do you feel a little better about a 6 month old child dying as opposed to a teenager dying? According to the logic you are using, you should practically have no concern over infant deaths.

    This was my source. They say 88%.

    https://prolifeaction.org/fact/abortionsstagepregnancy/
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    #83

    Jul 9, 2022, 02:58 PM
    Let's make a deal. Get rid of assault and semi-assault rifles so children and teens et al. don't die.
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    Jul 9, 2022, 03:14 PM
    Your deal is that I would agree to something and you would…?? At any rate, the vast majority of gun deaths are from handguns. And then there are knife deaths as well, so your proposal would not accomplish much. Might add that the general public does not own genuine assault weapons.
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    Jul 9, 2022, 03:34 PM
    So you're saying no to getting rid of assault and semi-assault rifles because they don't kill enough people. Buffalo. Uvalde. Highland Park. Okay, sure.

    Then let's get rid of ALL guns.

    I carried an AR-15 (owned by a mentally challenged friend) for several months in my car trunk until I convinced him to surrender it to local authorities.
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    #86

    Jul 9, 2022, 04:04 PM
    Then let's get rid of ALL guns.
    Your true colors now on display.

    But what part of the "deal" involved YOU agreeing to something?

    How about this as yet unanswered question? "One way or the other, I'm not sure what difference it makes. Do you feel a little better about a 6 month old child dying as opposed to a teenager dying? According to the logic you are using, you should practically have no concern over infant deaths."
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    #87

    Jul 9, 2022, 04:31 PM
    A 6 month old child??? Why would that child die? Why would a teen die?

    First thing I plan to do when I get to heaven is fuse together all earthly gun barrels and also all ammunition.
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    #88

    Jul 9, 2022, 05:07 PM
    Evasive as always.
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    #89

    Jul 9, 2022, 05:34 PM
    Evasive? I have no clue what you want to know. That's why I asked questions.
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    #90

    Jul 9, 2022, 06:12 PM
    It's very simple. Why do you bring up the subject of 90% of abortions happening in the first trimester? Why is that important to you?
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    #91

    Jul 9, 2022, 06:20 PM
    To counter your "A little less than 90% are in the first trimester." It's more than that.
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    #92

    Jul 9, 2022, 06:29 PM
    Nope. Posts are permanent on this site. If you will look at your post 79 where, replying to my statement of, "That is correct. Something like 99% of abortions are pretty much elective," you replied, "And during the first trimester."

    So why did you consider that to be important, that in your view 99% of abortions are in the first trimester? Or perhaps you consider it to be unimportant, in which case it is hard to imagine why you brought it up.
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    #93

    Jul 9, 2022, 06:33 PM
    And then I did some research. Post 81.

    Why did I consider that number important? Because of your Post 78.
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    #94

    Jul 9, 2022, 06:44 PM
    What in post 78 caused your response? Please be specific.
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    Jul 9, 2022, 06:51 PM
    There ain't much there. "Something like 99% of abortions are pretty much elective."

    I hadn't even broached the "elective" part yet.
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    #96

    Jul 9, 2022, 07:10 PM
    Evasive as always. Talk to someone else.
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    #97

    Jul 9, 2022, 07:31 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Evasive as always. Talk to someone else.
    Evasive how? I'm answering your questions.
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    #98

    Jul 10, 2022, 05:13 AM
    The Compost confirms that the story Clueless told about the 10 year old rape victim is bogus .

    A one-source story about a 10-year-old and an abortion goes viral - The Washington Post

    Child services agencies in Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati, Dayton, Toledo, and other Ohio cities were unaware of any 10-year-old rape victims in their jurisdictions.
    KJ-P sorta confimed that Clueless used the story to make a political point and had ummm ...not really done due diligence to confirm the facts behind the story .
    "The President spoke to that — a young woman — just to show how extreme the decision on — the Dobbs decision was and just how extreme it is now for American public, the American families.”
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    #99

    Jul 10, 2022, 05:18 AM
    It just seems amazing that with all the resources of the White House, they could not take the ten minutes it would have taken to confirm the story. No regard for the truth. Should that be surprising???
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    #100

    Jul 10, 2022, 05:24 AM
    Jill Biden tweet included this. "For nearly 50 years, women have had the right to make our own decisions about our bodies. Today, that right was stolen from us." I suppose the good news is that liberal dems have finally figured out what a "woman" is.

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