[jlisenbe]

Nah. It's prescious. You have to remember the Aussie spelling of the word that means, "right and correct in his arguments". Well, poor Clete. He got blown up on his silly assertion about the superior state of the Aussie economy, and it just eats at him. But as they say, become better, or become bitter.

Actually, he seems to be prescient at times.

Thank you! That's a nice compliment. It's kind of easy on this board, but I'll still accept it.

"The definition of prescient is knowing what is going to happen before it happens."

[Wondergirl]

Thank you! That's a nice compliment. It's kind of easy on this board, but I'll still accept it.

"The definition of prescient is knowing what is going to happen before it happens."

Maybe if I compliment you now and then, you'll start to like me....

[jlisenbe]

I am always for you, WG. Don't always understand you, but I always want to see you do well, and I frequently like you when you are not driving me batty. I do admire your giving heart. I have no doubt that you are genuinely concerned about the less fortunate. And I am JEALOUS of your knowledge of grammar. Believe it or not, I pray for you regularly.

[Wondergirl]

I am always for you, WG. Don't always understand you, but I always want to see you do well, and I frequently like you when you are not driving me batty. I do admire your giving heart. I have no doubt that you are genuinely concerned about the less fortunate. And I am JEALOUS of your knowledge of grammar. Believe it or not, I pray for you regularly.

Wow! Thank you!

And you're ENVIOUS (not JEALOUS).... *grinning*

[paraclete]

Nah. It's prescious. You have to remember the Aussie spelling of the word that means, "right and correct in his arguments". Well, poor Clete. He got blown up on his silly assertion about the superior state of the Aussie economy, and it just eats at him. But as they say, become better, or become bitter.

Thank you! That's a nice compliment. It's kind of easy on this board, but I'll still accept it.

"The definition of prescient is knowing what is going to happen before it happens."

JL, I think you far from

right and correct in his arguments

in most of your arguments. Where I come from being precious means clinging to an argument like a little child even when you are wrong, and your insistence that taxation is wrong is such an argument, taxation is theft, legalised theft. Yes, I do think the state of our economy is superior to yours, even though we have seen the dismantling of our manufacturing industries because of the rise of China and US investment there. You would be better served investing in your allies than with your ideological enemies. OK our economy isn't the size of yours but considering it has become a service economy it does fairly well, and you have yet to see the true impact of CV19, once Joe gets loose you are in for a recession, how's that for prescient, by the way China owns you arse

[jlisenbe]

Precious here means to be of great value.

your insistence that taxation is wrong is such an argument,

If I had ever made such an argument, then I would agree with you.

taxation is theft, legalised theft.

That was actually not my point either. I was referring specifically to taking tax money and giving it to individuals. It is legalized theft pure and simple, and a government enforced, involuntary system of charity. Most liberal dems support it because they incessantly call upon the rich to pay it, and I despise that cowardly approach to morality and charity.

Yes, I do think the state of our economy is superior to yours,

You are welcome to your opinion.

you have yet to see the true impact of CV19, once Joe gets loose you are in for a recession, how's that for prescient, by the way China owns you arse

There is certainly much there to consider. If we get by with merely a recession, it will be the blessing of God.

[jlisenbe]

And you're ENVIOUS (not JEALOUS).... *grinning*

Rats! You got me again. Your point is very well taken.

[paraclete]

Precious here means to be of great value.

No it is actually derisive we always reverse the meaning when referring to individuals, sort of like sick means good

If I had ever made such an argument, then I would agree with you.

That was actually not my point either. I was referring specifically to taking tax money and giving it to individuals. It is legalized theft pure and simple, and a government enforced, involuntary system of charity. Most liberal dems support it because they incessantly call upon the rich to pay it, and I despise that cowardly approach to morality and charity.

So you are against welfare in all its forms? No unemployment, No food stamps, no healthcare, no education programs. You must be against school meals, homeless shelters, etc, what a miserable outlook

You are welcome to your opinion.

There is certainly much there to consider. If we get by with merely a recession, it will be the blessing of God.

Yes my opinion is valuable, we thought we would have a CV19 led depression but once we got on top of the virus, it was a short run recession. You see taking sensible measures proved beneficial in the long run

[tomder55]

socialism in a nutshell ....All Out Crazy is selling 'tax the rich' sweat shirts on her web site for $58 .

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[paraclete]

I heard of a scheme once employed where there was a special tax for all those with wealth exceeding 2.5 million, this should be reintroduced

[jlisenbe]

So you are against welfare in all its forms? No unemployment, No food stamps, no healthcare, no education programs. You must be against school meals, homeless shelters, etc, what a miserable outlook

In our country, unemployment is not welfare. When you work, you pay an unemployment tax that is used for that purpose. Education is certainly not welfare. As to school meals, I have no problem with feeding children.

I could probably get behind a program where everyone who works is taxed a certain amount, say 3%, that is used to fund welfare programs, which was basically the OT method of state charity. No more of this fake charity where people advocate taxing the wealthy to pay for it. If it's important, then let's all get behind it. But the spending would be limited to whatever that tax brings in. That way, no pol party could claim they had this fake concern for the poor, the kind that says, "We care so much for poor people that we are willing to force other people to take care of them." That's one of the most nauseating approaches I know of and reveals those people to be the miserable, hypocritical cowards they are. That's your "miserable outlook" in my view.

OR you could make the 3% voluntary. Then we would be able to separate the sincere from the fake real easily. "Did you check the box and pay your fed charity tax?"

And before anyone starts complaining that I am not in favor of charity, you need to come look at my checkbook first. My objection is to government sponsored, politically motivated "charity" that allows a bunch of liberal dems to act like they are wonderful because they force other people to pay for it.

I heard of a scheme once employed where there was a special tax for all those with wealth exceeding 2.5 million, this should be reintroduced

Nope. If it's worth doing, then it's worth taxing Clete, JL, WG, Tal, Tom, and everyone else for. What gives you the authority to tell other people what to do with their money, especially when you are not willing to do it yourself with yours?

[talaniman]

I've always paid my fair share of taxes and have no problem the least and the needy are helped by it. That's the way it's supposed to be in a great nation of great wealth that reaches all across the globe. Says more about us than all the armies, boats, and planes.

Speaks louder than the endless screaming about somebody taking your money, calling names, or trying to kick someone out of the boat we're all in. It's not your boat or my boat, it's our boat!

[Wondergirl]

What gives you the authority to tell other people what to do with their money, especially when you are not willing to do it yourself with yours?

We voters can tell other people what to do with their money because we ARE willing to do it with our own. As Tal so succinctly said, "It's not your boat or my boat, it's OUR boat!"

[jlisenbe]

Speaks louder than the endless screaming about somebody taking your money, calling names, or trying to kick someone out of the boat we're all in. It's not your boat or my boat, it's our boat!

You see me calling names, tell me about it. You see me kicking someone "out of the boat", tell me about it. Otherwise you are, shall we say, being much less than honest.

We voters can tell other people what to do with their money because we ARE willing to do it with our own.

No you're not. You have never called for an increase in your own taxes. The incessant call of the liberal left is for an increase in someone else's taxes. And besides, where in law do you find the idea of you deciding that someone else has to engage in your idea of charity? Where is that?

And just like an answer to prayer, there is this. AOC. The gift that keeps on giving.

https://shop.ocasiocortez.com/produc...ich-sweatshirt

[Wondergirl]

No you're not. You have never called for an increase in your own taxes.

Yes, I have, on November 3.

[jlisenbe]

Sure you did.

[jlisenbe]

More democrat hypocrites. London Breed, the mayor of San Fran, eight days after telling everyone to stay at home, was seen dining at one of the most highly priced restaurants in California. Steve Adler, the democrat mayor of Austin, told his servants to stay at home, but he filmed that after flying to a beach resort in Mexico for a stay in a condo. I'm sure that all of the people on this board who have been so concerned with Trump's supposed hypocrisy will join with me in condemning this.

Now the latest from the math genius who is pres elect. He warned us that we will have a quarter of a million die from COVID in December if we did not do as he says. That would require 8 thousand dead a day. At no time have we even approached HALF of that figure, but JB wants us to listen to him! Come on, man!

[Wondergirl]

Sure you did.

Matthew 8:26a

[jlisenbe]

Sure you did.

[Athos]

socialism in a nutshell ....All Out Crazy is selling 'tax the rich' sweat shirts on her web site for $58 .

That's called free enterprise, tomder. I thought you supported that.

I guess you meant "capitalism in a nutshell".

You anti-socialist boys are still confused about what the words mean.