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Oct 15, 2014, 10:40 AM
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someone on the emperor's staff pulled him aside today and told him that it was bad optics to be fundraising with the tycoons in NY today with the growing ebola crisis . So he cancelled a day where he was going to do barnstorm fundraising (while declining an invitation to visit the children at the 1st elementary school names after him ). Instead he will hold a presser at apx 3:30 (probably later ) after he meets with his cabinet . Imagine that ;cancelling a funder to deal with a crisis . That's almost like acting like a President.
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Oct 15, 2014, 11:24 AM
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Anyone who lied to get in, or helps someone who has it or lied should all be thrown in prison (solitary confinement). One guy lied to get here and now 2 Nurses have it, and a bunch more people are now under observation and it keeps increasing. What about their rights and the right of their families The health care workers. Not the Typhoid marys.
Its no different than an aids patient infecting others when they even think its possible they have it even without an actual positive diagnosis. Except you will live a lot longer with aids than Ebola.
NONE of them should have ever been allowed into the country. NO travel should be allowed to or from anyone of those countries or anyone that that has traveled there.
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Oct 15, 2014, 12:06 PM
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None of them? He was an American citizen, coming home to his family. Unlike the other citizens that were diagnosed and chauffeured with special first class treatment, he was sent home after going to an ER. He sure didn't lie about where he came from.
You would have lied to, to get the hell away from where he was. A majority of people would have. Okay stop all the plane from everywhere in case another liar who might have ebola or anything else comes here.
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Oct 15, 2014, 12:11 PM
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None of them, citizen or not... they should have ALL been treated where the epidemic was occurring to keep it contained. As we can now clearly see... these idiots at the CDC look at everything through rose colored glasses... and reality is quite the opposite. Cold harsh, extremely unforgiving. Otherwise no health care workers would have got this. The CDC and everyone else in this administration have been spreading lies about how supposedly difficult it is to get this. Anyone who watches the news and doesn't take anything a talking head has to say for granted, knows reality is far different... if he survived he should have been jailed and held liable if his lies to enter caused problems to anyone else, even if they later survived.
Sorry but his lies have resulted in the infection of at least two other people at this point, probably far more, and the mortality rate is so high most will die from it. He's just as guilty of murder as if he had shot them in the head. But being dead...he can't answer for any of it.
His actions are the new definition of selfish.
It could just as easily been a school age kid that had it and spread it around in the school. And heaven forbid that happen....but I can see it coming if they continue to treat this so cavalierly.
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Oct 15, 2014, 12:30 PM
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they should have ALL been treated where the epidemic was occurring to keep it contained.
WHO? With what? From where?
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Oct 15, 2014, 12:34 PM
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Take a wild guess? Before this ignorant bozo lied and brought it to these shores... everyone that has contracted it did so in western Africa. It wasn't endemic to Iowa.
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Oct 15, 2014, 01:23 PM
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Yeah we have enough disease already killing people.
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Jobs & Parenting Expert
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Oct 15, 2014, 01:30 PM
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How many in this country have died now from that enterovirus D68?
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Oct 15, 2014, 02:21 PM
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don't know . I know of 2 ....one in Michigan and one in NJ. The problem here is the CDC appears clueless (no surprise actually ) ,and ebola is a slow moving virus . What happens in a pandemic of fast moving disease ? Look..... y'all made political hay with Katrina and the lack of an adequate response. Perhaps we now ,with an apparent clumsy response to ebola ,and Sandy ,and IRS web site building etc. ,we realize that the fault may lie in the over cumbersome size of the Leviathan.
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Jobs & Parenting Expert
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Oct 15, 2014, 02:45 PM
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At least six deaths so far with over 500 cases across 42 states. Where is the panic?
Correction -- now 45 states.
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Oct 15, 2014, 04:11 PM
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Enteroviruses began showing up in the summer, which, coincide with thousands of illegal "children" infiltrating the U.S. border.
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Jobs & Parenting Expert
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Oct 15, 2014, 05:44 PM
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The U.S. started seeing enteroviruses in 1962.
from Wikipedia -- "EV-D68 first was identified in California in 1962."
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Oct 15, 2014, 05:49 PM
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Haven't read all the posts, too many!
There are now two nurses in Texas with Ebola. They both treated one of the US patients that had Ebola and died. The CDC is now saying that they should have stepped in sooner, made sure people were properly trained when they're caregivers for people with this disease. A little too late, isn't it?
There's now a suspected case of Ebola where I live.
The main issue seems to be that health care workers aren't trained to deal with this, and they're not getting the training they need to safely work with these patients.
They better start figuring out how to contain this, because it doesn't seem to be getting any better. Start training the medical staff that has to deal with this!
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Uber Member
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Oct 15, 2014, 07:48 PM
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I keep waitng for President Obola to explain how this is all really George Bushes fault.
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Ultra Member
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Oct 16, 2014, 02:25 AM
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Well it has to be someone's fault as well be his
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Oct 16, 2014, 02:38 AM
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It's Republican budget cuts that keep them from being able to contain outbreaks
That's a tired old Dem line . ie ,they budget for a 10% increase and in negotiations end up with only a 7% ... Then they get on their soap box yelling the budget was cut by 3% .
The U.S. started seeing enteroviruses in 1962.
from Wikipedia -- "EV-D68 first was identified in California in 1962
The most recent outbreak coincided with the bullrush to the border by Central American "children" .
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Ultra Member
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Oct 17, 2014, 10:10 PM
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I see republicans are never responsible for anything, there weren't responsible for invading Iraq and destabilising the ME, they aren't responsible for budget cuts because if you don't pass legislation, you can't be, can you and well now that the missing WMD have surfaced they can't be responsible for lying. Whitewash anyone?
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Oct 17, 2014, 10:13 PM
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Plain and simple, this is fear mongering at it's finest. It's finally been mastered.
Ebola is as easy to catch as AIDS is.
Time to get your flu shot. The flu killed 52,000 Americans last year. It's easier to contract than Ebola is.
**EDIT**
I don't think Mogrann, who started this thread, cares about WMD, Whitewash or anything of the such. She is concerned about Ebola. Can we please get back on track.
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Ultra Member
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Oct 17, 2014, 10:17 PM
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Ok would you like to take an ebola cruise, appears someone just did. We will now see how easy ebola is to catch in a closed system
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