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    Oct 3, 2013, 07:59 AM
    I'll be 108... very doable.
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    #82

    Oct 3, 2013, 08:04 AM
    Gingrich's mistake was not the shut down. His mistake was the perception he helped create(with a big hat tip from the praetorian guard of the 4th estate ) that it was a personal slight by Clintoon that was his motive for the shut down.
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    Oct 3, 2013, 09:05 AM
    The NSA chief claimed that NSA had to furlough 72% of their civilian workforce, which of course means we aren't being kept safe because of those darned Republicans. But since this regime has overinflated their successes one just might wonder how necessary those 72% of NSA employees are necessary in the first place.

    The Obama administration’s credibility on intelligence suffered another blow Wednesday as the chief of the National Security Agency admitted that officials put out numbers that vastly overstated the counterterrorism successes of the government’s warrantless bulk collection of all Americans’ phone records.

    Pressed by the Democratic chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee at an oversight hearing, Gen. Keith B. Alexander admitted that the number of terrorist plots foiled by the NSA’s huge database of every phone call made in or to America was only one or perhaps two — far smaller than the 54 originally claimed by the administration.

    Read more: NSA chief's admission of misleading numbers adds to Obama administration blunders - Washington Times
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    But again, math is hard.
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    #84

    Oct 3, 2013, 09:20 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    You guys are on record for shutting the whole government down, and not opening it back up. 43 votes to repeal Obama Care went no where, so you shut the government down to stop Obama Care. Prez said HELL NO!!!! So now you trot out one hostage after another, instead of taking one simple easy vote.

    Okay at a billion bucks a week you rack up a hellluva bill. A bill to open the government is before the house, but that would expose the utter stupidity of the TParty. Dems already agreed to the repubs budget.

    Take it and move on!
    We didn't shut it down... we sent over several bills all of which would have funded the government... the Democrats in the SENATE and the half-wit in the white house voted no and to shut the government down.

    And it's that senile old fart Reid who refuses to even nominate people to negotiate with the House to negotiate for a deal.

    Which legally is his job to do... as well as how its always been done... and was before the Messiah was throned.
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    #85

    Oct 3, 2013, 09:44 AM
    Harry Reid needs to be put in a nursing home... NOW...

    No, Harry Reid's Comments Weren't A 'Gaffe' | The Federalist

    Proof the lefties really hate everyone...



    HARRY REID: Listen, Sen. Durbin explained that very well, and he did it here, did it on the floor earlier, as did Sen. Schumer. What right did they have to pick and choose what part of government is going to be funded? It's obvious what's going on here. You talk about reckless and irresponsible. Wow. What this is all about is Obamacare. They are obsessed. I don't know what other word I can use. They're obsessed with this Obamacare. It's working now and it will continue to work and people will love it more than they do now by far. So they have no right to pick and choose.

    BASH: But if you can help one child who has cancer, why wouldn't you do it?

    REID: Why would we want to do that? I have 1,100 people at Nellis Air Force base that are sitting home. They have a few problems of their own. This is — to have someone of your intelligence to suggest such a thing maybe means you're irresponsible and reckless…

    BASH: I'm just asking a question.
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    Oct 3, 2013, 04:45 PM
    I'm liking the piecemeal passage of essential services approach. Some of the biggest abuses by the Federal gvt is through comprehensive legislation.
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    Oct 3, 2013, 09:27 PM
    'so what's the possibility that the incident in Washington is a protest by a furloughed employee
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    Oct 3, 2013, 09:31 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I'm liking the piecemeal passage of essential services approach. Some of the biggest abuses by the Federal gvt is through comprehensive legislation.
    That's just a great big copout and an attempt to subvert the processes
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    Oct 4, 2013, 04:05 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    'so what's the possibility that the incident in Washington is a protest by a furloughed employee
    Nope ;another example of the ignored mentally disturbed .
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    Oct 4, 2013, 04:10 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    That's just a great big copout and an attempt to subvert the processes
    The only process the lefties ever except is an ever expanding government with an arc of ever increasing spending .
    What I like is that it prioritizes. Consider this my compromise because my preference would be to slash the budget and have debates on the elimination of whole depts of the Federal government... not just budgets getting freezed at current levels .
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    Oct 4, 2013, 05:00 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    'so what's the possibility that the incident in Washington is a protest by a furloughed employee
    None.. she was a Dental Hygenist... not a federal worker.. or even a federal contractor.

    But she was mentally disturbed. Nobody showed her photo yet... but they did have the police carrying her toddler away fairly early on... (a clearly black girl roughly a year old... more or less) but later in the day they were blurring out the child on the videos and you wouldn't have been able to tell..
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    Oct 4, 2013, 05:59 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    the only process the lefties ever except is an ever expanding government with an arc of ever increasing spending .
    What I like is that it prioritizes. Consider this my compromise because my preference would be to slash the budget and have debates on the elimination of whole depts of the Federal government .... not just budgets getting freezed at current levels .
    Waiting to see what the headlines are and making legislation to open and fund it is no way to govern. Making sound bites with lab coats and checks is no way to govern. Stupid PR stunts make you guys look silly, and will FAIL.

    But The TParty loves every minute of it.
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    Oct 4, 2013, 06:42 AM
    Congressman's shutdown comments draw flak

    Stutzman, who represents a northeastern Indiana district, was quoted in The Washington Examiner on Wednesday as saying: "We're not going to be disrespected. We have to get something out of this. And I don't know what that even is."
    But it's okay to pay capital police IOU's while you figure out what works for you. You guys are wackos. Meanwhile the number of republican house members who would vote for a clean CR bill grows. A revolt against the TParty? Or a common sense solution? Or both!!

    Here's A Tally Of Which House Republicans Are Ready To Fund The Government, No Strings Attached
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    #94

    Oct 4, 2013, 06:47 AM
    The WHacko's are the dementia riddled Reid... and that pompous naccicist Obama who think they are gods who can dictate what everyone WILL give them...

    Apparently neither of them now Jack Squat about the constitution and the fact the three branches og government are co-equal... I guess because they were skipping class or just stoned on the days that was covered in Civics...

    Because neither Obama or Reid... are even in the branch of government that has the sole right to mandate federal spending. Which is exclusively the House.

    THe WHite house comes up with a budget... but the house can tear it up and spend everything how THEY want it spent because its they who hold the purse strings.
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    Oct 4, 2013, 06:58 AM
    Since the lefties were out smoking pot instead of attending civics class... heres a little primer that even they should be able to understand about the powers and duties of the three branches of government.

    The Duties of the Three Branches of Government
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    Oct 4, 2013, 07:29 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Waiting to see what the headlines are and making legislation to open and fund it is no way to govern. Making sound bites with lab coats and checks is no way to govern. Stupid PR stunts make you guys look silly, and will FAIL.

    But The TParty loves every minute of it.
    Yeah yeah I understand the melodrama . The emperor demagogues and the compliant praetorian press eggs him on with tales of woe . The emperor has for some reason combined the CR and the looming debt limit debate into one talking point. The real problem is that he thinks his role in our system is dictatorial. Smoothy is quite correct on that point . Even his own allies bemoan his aloof and detached " leadership" . All he knows how to do is street level rabble rousing .That is not governing ,and that is the sole reason for the impasse .
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    #97

    Oct 4, 2013, 07:55 AM
    Joe Biden hates American veterans too...

    And he's on the record doing it...

    And Joe Biden stands up for the park service blocking the WWII vets !

    Vice President Joe Biden is proud of the National Park Service ranger who stood up to Rep. Randy Neugebauer at the National World War II Memorial in Washington, D.C.

    On Thursday, video surfaced online of Neugebauer, a Texas Republican, angrily lecturing the ranger for setting up barricades to the memorial.

    "I'm proud of you," Biden said, according to his office's Twitter account, revealing that the vice president had called the ranger to thank her for her service.

    Neugebauer told the ranger that the Park Service should be "ashamed" for blocking access to the memorial.

    “I'm not ashamed,” the ranger replied.


    Biden To Park Ranger Who Blocked Vets From WWII Memorial: “I'm Proud Of You”)

    I'm guessing he was frequently dropped on his head as a child.
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    Oct 4, 2013, 08:08 AM
    Meanwhile the Park Service has reinforced the Barrycade at the WWII Memorial with wire.

    But they ran out of them at the WWI Memorial
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    Oct 4, 2013, 08:30 AM
    We need to round up some Meth heads to steal those and haul them off for scrap.
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    Oct 4, 2013, 08:50 AM
    If you have to take hostages to make your point, you are no better than terrorists. That's what happens when after hollering and badmouthing for years, you don't have the votes to pass what you want.

    If repubs weren't quaking in their boots over the TParty we might be at a different place. They have punked out the republican establishment, for now any way.

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