[paraclete]

Honest is a difficult term to define, but few of our politicians are millionaires, and it certainly isn't a qualification for high office. We operate in a somewhat different paradigm and with some very vigilent anti-corruption watchdogs. Some erstwhile state politicians are getting the treatment at the moment and very few make the transition to federal politics and even those who do fall foul of the same processes. It is my understanding you rate higher than we do on the international corruption indexes

[NeedKarma]

I don't have a NEED to impress any of you,

Apparently you do since you continuously do try to impress us with your insider knowledge and worldliness.

[smoothy]

Apparently you do since you continuously do try to impress us with your insider knowledge and worldliness.

You got a real problem up there in the great white north... got nothing better to do up there... mabe go shovel some snow or something?

[smoothy]

honest is a difficult term to define, but few of our politicians are millionaires, and it certainly isn't a qualification for high office. We operate in a somewhat different paradigm and with some very vigilent anti-corruption watchdogs. Some erstwhile state politicians are getting the treatment at the moment and very few make the transition to federal politics and even those who do fall foul of the same processes. It is my understanding you rate higher than we do on the international corruption indexes

And who creates those "Indexes" and what bias do they have? You have to look at underlying motives with many of those groups, and look at who is funding them.. Transparency is something most of them don't believe in.

[talaniman]

Quid pro QUO on the down low. Everybody has an agenda. Nobody wants to reveal it. Right or left.

[paraclete]

And who creates those "Indexes" and what bias do they have? You have to look at underlying motives with many of those groups, and look at who is funding them.. Transparency is something most of them don't believe in.

Organisations like

Transparency International commissioned Johann Graf Lambsdorff of the University of Passau to produce the Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI).[4] The 2012 CPI draws on 13 different surveys and assessments from 12 different institutions.[5] The institutions are the African Development Bank, the Bertelsmann Foundation, the Economist Intelligence Unit, Freedom House, Global Insight, International Institute for Management Development, Political and Economic Risk Consultancy, Political Risk Services, the World Economic Forum, the World Bank and the World Justice Project,

But the interesting thing is they all agree on placing you well up the list, OK you don't rate as badly as Russia or Afghanistan but there is room for improvement

[smoothy]

organisations like



but the interesting thing is they all agree on placing you well up the list, ok you don't rate as badly as Russia or Afghanistan but there is room for improvement

I'd have to look into that one because I don't know it off the top of my head specifically but I bet they have a record of anti-American sentiment.. which is common in a lot of those offshore places... many of whom are located in countries with a history of not having the freedoms they crow about.

But the jist of that seems to have a lot in common with the groups that feel they are entitled to handouts they never have to pay back... and not have any conditions for the handouts either...

Most places the say World this or World that... are usually not pro-democracy or pro-capitalism groups... they feel entitled to handouts because certain countries prosper because of all the things they don't believe in and they take exception to it..

I'm willing to be they rave about the Palestinians and belittle the Israelis.. in some release... but I have a few things to do first... I'll check later.

[speechlesstx]

It's confirmed, Obama did not pick up the phone to do a damn thing about the Benghazi attack. An eight hour attack, preceded by multiple requests for increased security, repeated warnings that the compound could not withstand an attack and a cable warning of an imminent attack which killed our ambassador and others, and Zero was a zero.

President Obama didn’t make any phone calls the night of the Sept. 11 attacks on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, the White House said in a letter to Congress released Thursday. “During the entire attack, the president of the United States never picked up the phone to put the weight of his office in the mix,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham, South Carolina Republican, who had held up Mr. Obama’s defense secretary nominee to force the information to be released. Mr. Graham said that if Mr. Obama had picked up the phone, at least two of the Americans killed in the attacks on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi might still be alive because he might have been able to push U.S. aid to get to the scene faster. The White House has said Mr. Obama was kept up to date on the attack by his staff, though after being alerted to the attack in a pre-scheduled afternoon meeting he never spoke again with Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Martin E. Dempsey or then-Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.

But hey, he got off to his campaign event.

[NeedKarma]

he got off to his campaign event.

While 3.000 americans were being killed Bush was reading a children's book to students for a photo op.

[tomder55]

New book adds an additional twist to the gun running angle (which the authors call an "open secret" ). The Obots were running operations in Libya that even General P at CIA ,and Evita at State was kept out of the loop. What the book details is a detail that I could not find ,a motive for the attack .

It turns out that, per the book, the West, particularly the United States, leading up to the 2011 Libyan civil war had been flooding Libya with literally millions of weapons. After the West—NATO, with Obama at the helm—decided to topple Gaddafi, these millions of weapons then fell into Al-Qaeda and associated groups' hands. And what Team Obama wasn't funneling to the Syrian rebels (what Benghazi: The Definitive Report calls an “open secret”)—they wanted to get back from groups such as Ansar al-Sharia. Brennan, throughout North Africa, had been conducting his secret JSOC wars against al-Qaeda and associated groups; and lo and behold, yes, Mr. Brennan, there was retaliation. And that retaliation resulted in the deaths of four Americans at the consulate in Benghazi on the anniversary of 9/11.

The whole Obama Benghazi cover-up was only partially about hiding the illegal funneling of Libyan weapons to Syria and was mainly about the real—but illegal—Commander-in-Chief John Brennan conducting secret wars in Libya—without approval from Congress, without approval from the Pentagon, and hidden even from the CIA, with only a behind-doors approval by Barack Hussein Obama.

I can just hear Zero telling John Brennan ,"yeah ,yeah {yawn} do what is necessary " .Brennan, who is now the nominee to head the CIA, was given a blank check. To do just about whatever he needed to do in North Africa and the Mideast, Brennan ,who has also directed the drone campaign chose to conduct a dangerous covert classified war without keeping Stevens in the loop .Stevens paid with his life.

Benghazi Attack Was Retaliation For Brennan?s Secret Al-Qaeda War

The authors... Brandon Webb is a former U.S. Navy SEAL, close friend of slain former Seal Glen Doherty,and the Executive Media Director of the Special Operations web site SOPFREP.com (Special Operations Forces Report) . Jack Murphy is an eight year Army Special Operations veteran ,and Managing Editor, USASOC Editor of SOPFREP.

[smoothy]

While 3.000 americans were being killed Bush was reading a children's book to students for a photo op.

Right... and where was Bill Clinton? For that matter where was you anyway.. do you have an Alibi?

Because Unlike Bengazi where it happened over 7 straight hours when we had rapid reaction troops 45 minutes away... and Obama didn't give a hoot the entire time, we didn't know what was happening until after it happened on 9/11... EVERYONE... and I do mean EVERYONE thought the first one was an accident... it wasn't until after the Pentagon and the second one it became obvious it wasn't an accident.

And by the way Einstein... Bush was reading to those kids when the FIRST plane hit... without warning... contrary to what you might believe... he wasn't still doing it when the second plane hit OR the Pentagon got hit... but then facts don't matter much to you, do they.

Are you one of the loons that believes the Jewish Lobby did it?

[paraclete]

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Are you one of the loons that believes the Jewish Lobby did it?

Did what? The Israeli do many things to look after their own security so discount nothing

[smoothy]

Did what? The Israeli do many things to look after their own security so discount nothing

You are beyond hope if you believe that crap...

[Tuttyd]

I'd have to look into that one because I don't know it off the top of my head specifically but I bet they have a record of anti-American sentiment..which is common in a lot of those offshore places....many of whom are located in countries with a history of not having the freedoms they crow about.

At least three of these are American organizations.

But the jist of that seems to have a lot in common with the groups that feel they are entitled to handouts they never have to pay back...and not have any conditions for the handouts either....

Usually we don't start a new paragraph with the word, "But". By doing so you are creating a number of predicates without subjects. The gist of what? What groups? A new paragraph is for a new idea.

Most places the say World this or World that.....are usually not pro-democracy or pro-capitalism groups....they feel entitled to handouts because certain countries prosper because of all the things they don't believe in and they take exception to it..

I am not sure what you are saying in this paragraph? Exception to what? What are some of the things they don't they believe in?

I did mention ellipsis points in a previous thread. Generally ellipsis points are used as an indication that no clarification is required. In this particular paragraph clarification would be of help.

[smoothy]

At least three of these are American organizations.



Usually we don't start a new paragraph with the word, "But". By doing so you are creating a number of predicates without subjects. The gist of what? What groups? A new paragraph is for a new idea.



I am not sure what you are saying in this paragraph? Exception to what? What are some of the things they don't they believe in?

Why are you using ellipsis points? Generally they are used as an indication that no clarification is required. In this particular paragraph clarification would be of help.

There are plenty of Anti-American groups in the USA... Southern Law Center, ACLU, The Democrat party for just three of them.

On the rest

This isn't English Grammar class so stuff it... who appointed you grammar cop anyway?

[Tuttyd]

This isn't English Grammar class so stuff it .....who appointed you grammar cop anyway?

Just trying to help you get your message across. If you are not interested then that's fine with me.

[speechlesstx]

While 3.000 americans were being killed Bush was reading a children's book to students for a photo op.

Yeah was a pathetic cheap shot as usual. Bush was where he was supposed to be at the time, where the hell was Obama for eight hours when he had opportunity to do something?

[NeedKarma]

I was just parodying your post here: https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/curren...ml#post3397433

But hey, he got off to his campaign event.

Like always when I do the same thing you do you suddenly find my use of it offensive. I think there's a word for that. :D

Have a great day - I'm off to a funspiel.

[speechlesstx]

I was just parodying your post here: https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/curren...ml#post3397433


Like always when I do the same thing you do you suddenly find my use of it offensive. I think there's a word for that. :D

Have a great day - I'm off to a funspiel.

As always, you might have a point if the facts supported you but they don't. Bush did the right thing, Obama did not.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2069582,00.html

[talaniman]

As always, you might have a point if the facts supported you but they don't. Bush did the right thing, Obama did not.

Students with Bush on 9/11 Look Back After bin Laden Death - TIME

Clinton: I warned Bushabout bin Laden threat

“In his campaign, Bush had said he thought the biggest security issue was Iraq and a national missile defense,” Clinton said, according to Reuters. “I told him that in my opinion, the biggest security problem was Osama bin Laden.”
Read more at Clinton: I warned Bushabout bin Laden threat

Who is rewriting history? Who did the right thing?