[joypulv]

I wasn't mocking you personally. You have your finger on more political pulses than I do. I happen to feel defensive about this one for some reason.
So Obama is more open about attacks than Bush was. Bush struck me as someone who didn't even know when he was being attacked (or even when the twin towers were being attacked). He went through life being handed Yale and politics and the CIA and oil and it was easier for him to not care because someone else was always taking care of it for him.
In the larger view I see Democrats as all about being open (transparency, blah blah) and Republicans as being secretive. Republicans are secretive about everything from big banks to invisible cloaks.
For this matter at hand, it's down to open snitching vs. secretive intel gathering, sensitive president vs. couldn't care less president. The first uses the internet for free, the second used everyone from the CIA, FBI, NSA, SS, and who knows who else to gather the same info, using a lot more sophisticated means at taxpayer expense.
Snitch or intel, which is your preference?

[speechlesstx]

Surely you jest about Dems being transparent. This is an administration that promised transparency then tried to codify lying. He not only wants snitches, he wants to legally lie about the existence of intel.

[excon]

Surely you jest about Dems being transparent.

Hello again, Steve:

Ok, enough of this ONE way crap... Obama is a LIAR.. He said he was going to be transparent, and now he's going after leaker's like they were enemy number #1...

But, you're trying to make it sound like Republicans would NEVER do such a dastardly thing... That Republicans would tell EVERYTHING...

Bwa, ha ha ha ha.

excon

[speechlesstx]

I've done no such thing, I merely stated that Bush was thicker skinned than the current dufus in the Oval Office. Otherwise, we seem to be in agreement.

[joypulv]

Thick skinned resilient, or encased in armor with a perpetual lopsided grin? I'll bet they botoxed his face whenever there was a tragedy. What, we are now measuring skin? (Oh right, very important to you guys.)

This is getting OT. A website to get reports of 'attacks' IN ORDER TO OPENLY REPLY TO THEM is preferable in my book to gov't agencies that cull them in secret, by keyword searches, facial recognition, spying, or other surveillance. It's going to happen no matter how, but this way it's out in front - no one wants what we perceive to be false information flying around, not even I.

[speechlesstx]

no one wants what we perceive to be false information flying around, not even I.

In that case, the president should shut up. He is the chief purveyor of false information.

[paraclete]

Wow. So speech you deny the right of free speech to your leader

[joypulv]

'chief purveyor of false information'
Snore.
I hear that hyperbole every admin.
I guess the topic of a new way information is gathered is being skirted now or has fizzled.

[smoothy]

When has Obama actually NOT lied about something? And by lie... I mean misstate, misquote, or twist reality until it resembles nothing based in fact...

[speechlesstx]

Wow. So speech you deny the right of free speech to your leader

??

[joypulv]

If someone accuses me of lying all the time, I don't give them the right to demand that I provide a list of all the times I have told the truth.
The burden is on them to provide a list of lies.

[speechlesstx]

All I can say is what I said before, this is a regime that wanted to codify lying. 'Nuff said.

[Cat1864]

This is getting OT. A website to get reports of 'attacks' IN ORDER TO OPENLY REPLY TO THEM is preferable in my book to gov't agencies that cull them in secret, by keyword searches, facial recognition, spying, or other surveillance. It's going to happen no matter how, but this way it's out in front - no one wants what we perceive to be false information flying around, not even I.

Do you think Obama isn't using those secretive tactics as well as the more public ones?

Have you been to the website that started this discussion? Do you really think it appropriate that a president ask everyone to 'report' rumors and where they heard them? Not just blogs, websites, news articles, or other public utterances but 'rumors' that a neighbor, friend or family member might share in the privacy of their own home. Do you want your private conversations 'reported' to Attackwatch? Would you 'report' anyone who doesn't believe in Obama the way you might?

Now, Obama wants people to 'educate' themselves so that they can 'educate' others. The problem with that is he wants them educated with his spin on the 'facts'. It is no better than anyone else before him and worse than some. However, it doesn't matter who else has tried these tactics because it doesn't excuse Obama from using them now.

[tomder55]

None of this would be necessary if we were all properly indoctrinated at a young age

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/hes-...-at-tx-school/

The Barack Obama Song

Who is our 44th President?
Obama is our 44th President
Who is a DC resident?
Obama is a DC resident
Resident, President

Who's favorite team is the Chicago White Sox?
Obama's favorite team is the Chicago White sox
Who really thinks outside the box?
Obama really thinks outside the box
Outside the box, Chicago White Sos
Resident, President

Who really likes to play basketball?
Obama really likes to play basketball
Who's gonna answer our every call?
Every Call, Basketball
Outside the box, Chicago White Sox
Resident, President

Who's famous slogan is Yes we can?
Obams's famous slogan is Yes we can
Who do we know is the man?
Barack Obama is the man
He's our man, Yes we can!
Every Call, Basketvall
Outside the box, Chicago White Sox
Resident, President
Who won a grammy for “Dreams of my Father”?
Obama won a grammy for “Dreams of my Father”?
Now can you guess who's a famous author
Barack Obama is a famous author

[speechlesstx]

And you didn't even get all the verses. That's just creepy and yes, taxpayers are funding Obama evangelism.

[smoothy]

If someone accuses me of lying all the time, I don't give them the right to demand that I provide a list of all the times I have told the truth.
The burden is on them to provide a list of lies.

Except for the fact he couldn't provide a list when he ever told the truth... because it hasn't happened in his adult life yet.

Everything he's ever uttered as president has basically been a lie...

[joypulv]

Y'all too adorable for words. Bye