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    Feb 3, 2011, 01:44 PM

    I saw a photo of a bus too, with the door open and snow piled inside on the driver's seat and elsewhere. For the bus, I'm guessing the driver had better things to do getting his passengers to safety, and the last to leave the bus didn't know now to and didn't bother to (because the door was the last thing on his mind) shut the door.

    The truck window may have been open in order to talk with a rescuer, and so anxious was the driver to get out of there, he didn't remember to/bother to close the window again. Same with the open truck door. Or if the door hadn't been closed hard enough, the nasty gale-force wind could have blown it open.
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    Feb 3, 2011, 01:49 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I saw a photo of a bus too, with the door open and snow piled inside on the driver's seat and elsewhere. For the bus, I'm guessing the driver had better things to do getting his passengers to safety, and the last to leave the bus didn't know now to and didn't bother to (because the door was the last thing on his mind) shut the door.

    The truck window may have been open in order to talk with a rescuer, and so anxious was the driver to get out of there, he didn't remember to/bother to close the window again. Same with the open truck door. Or if the door hadn't been closed hard enough, the nasty gale-force wind could have blown it open.
    I don't buy the rush to get out thing... its not like they were in the river and the bus was sinking. But honestly... its not any more stupid than all the Busses left in New Orleans to be flooded while the people in charge ran for the hills in Katrina. I can understand the door thing with the wind being possible if it was a bus... but the widow didn't blow open. It was left open.

    The picture I saw in the local paper didn't say it was a bus... but I'll take your words it was.
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    Feb 3, 2011, 02:03 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    The picture I saw in the local paper didn't say it was a bus......but I'll take your words it was.
    I saw photos of both a bus and a truck with doors open. The passengers in those vehicles had been stranded for more than eight hours with no food, bathroom facilities (maybe the bus had this), or even heat (once the fuel ran out and the engine died), and were hugely relieved to be rescued. The last thing on MY mind would have been, "Close the door behind you" (even though my mother said it constantly to us kids as I did to mine)
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    Feb 3, 2011, 02:07 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I saw photos of both a bus and a truck with doors open. The passengers in those vehicles had been stranded for more than eight hours with no food, bathroom facilities (maybe the bus had this), or even heat (once the fuel ran out and the engine died), and were hugely relieved to be rescued. The last thing on MY mind would have been, "Close the door behind you" (even though my mother said it constantly to us kids as I did to mine)
    That's the first thing I would do... secure my possessions... it only takes a moment... and like I said... I live in a nice safe area. I wouldn't leave my vehicle unlocked... much less with the windows down.

    Incidentally... I sat 10 hours in traffic in last weeks storm 7 hours of that was the last 5 miles to my house. Could have walked home far faster... but I had no place to safely leave my vehicle closed and locked up (I.E. a parking lot)... so I didn't. Of the dozens I did see abandoned last week... none had their windows down either.

    But like I said... I know how the mechanism on a bus door operates so I can understand how that could blow open in the right conditions.
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    Feb 3, 2011, 02:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Thats the first thing I would do.....secure my posessions...it only takes a moment....and like I said...I live in a nice safe area. I wouldn't leave my vehicle unlocked...much less with the windows down.
    The wind was incredible. And what if you had to "go" real bad, knowing that there was a bathroom on the bus you were walking to?

    The truck (click arrow to show 3rd photo) --

    http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/ne...40.php#photo-3

    The bus (click arrow to show next photo)--

    http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/ne...oad-992540.php
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    Feb 3, 2011, 03:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    The wind was incredible. And what if you had to "go" real bad, knowing that there was a bathroom on the bus you were walking to?

    The truck (click arrow to show 3rd photo) --

    A fearful, frigid night on iconic Chicago road - Beaumont Enterprise

    The bus (click arrow to show next photo)--

    A fearful, frigid night on iconic Chicago road - Beaumont Enterprise
    OK.. the photo I saw the other day locally was definitely the truck... not the bus, it was one of those you linked.

    Still, if you have time to get to the bus... you have time to close the door.

    And if if it's that cold and windy... then WHY pray tell are their windows down? Were they hoping for an insurance claim per chance? Bitter cold and windy are the LAST conditions that would prompt me to open my windows or walk away with the door open. And that truck had the passenger side window fully down and the drivers door wide open.


    If you had to go "real bad" you would do it right next to your vehicle... trust me... a lot of people were doing it here last week... men and women.

    Trust me, I'm on blood pressure medication... so you know that means I end up going frequently.
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    Feb 3, 2011, 03:52 PM

    Snowmobiles had zoomed in to let trapped motorists know there was help coming (and were also rescuing people themselves). If you're in a freezing cold vehicle and can't see much past your windshield, are waiting for dawn, are maybe even asleep or dozing, then a snowmobile drives up to your vehicle, you roll down your window. If he says, "Hop on and I'll take you to safety," the tears of gratitude floor your eyes and your mind turns to mush with excitement -- so you forget to roll up the window because you're busy grabbing your possessions off the passenger seat and pulling the keys out of the ignition. An open window is the least of your concerns at that point. And who's going to steal your vehicle?
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    Feb 3, 2011, 04:04 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Snowmobiles had zoomed in to let trapped motorists know there was help coming (and were also rescuing people themselves). If you're in a freezing cold vehicle and can't see much past your windshield, are waiting for dawn, are maybe even asleep or dozing, then a snowmobile drives up to your vehicle, you roll down your window. If he says, "Hop on and I'll take you to safety," the tears of gratitude floor your eyes and your mind turns to mush with excitement -- so you forget to roll up the window because you're busy grabbing your possessions off the passenger seat and pulling the keys out of the ignition. An open window is the least of your concerns at that point. And who's going to steal your vehicle?
    Still reaks of irresponsibility to me... that window could be up faster than they could get out of the door... and that truck likely had power windows that are faster than crank windows to get up or down... and you can close the door in 1 second... sorry... nobody is going to present a pressing emergency that doesn't involve water that's deeper than 3 feet for leaving a door or window open. Sounds exactly like the same people that would let their house go into foreclosure than make payments they could afford just because its value when lower than they owe... and there are people like that.


    Incidentally... I'm a native Pittsburgher... I've seen 3 feet deep snow more than a few times. And I lved in a VERY rural area the plows were slow to get to.
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    Feb 3, 2011, 04:27 PM

    Yep a native Pittsburgher here also. Go steelers!
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    #90

    Feb 3, 2011, 04:29 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Still reaks of irresponsibility to me....
    Then it probably was someone related to some of our new members here.
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    Feb 4, 2011, 07:43 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Hey!!! You weren't worried about me? I'm even closer to Chicago than he is!! Because of the drifts, I can't see his house from my back porch any longer!!

    It took my son three hours to clear his driveway and sidewalk and front porch/porch steps yesterday afternoon using only a shovel. My husband and other son needed almost two hours to clear our driveway, etc. while using shovels and a snowblower. The village snowplows keep plowing snow in front of the drives, so there is continual shoveling of that.

    We so want spring, but then there will be the melting and flooding....
    Well I am worried now. I guess I didn't realize you were that way also. But looking back I remember it in conversation your locations. We certainly didn't get it that bad. We are getting more snow today but it isn't nothing like your way. Those news pictures were jaw dropping for me.
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    #92

    Feb 4, 2011, 10:05 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Then it probably was someone related to some of our new members here.
    Like this thread...

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/real-e...nt-550662.html

    It's a subdivided HOUSE... not a condo or apartment building or complex... and they are whining about having to dig their own car out in the AM...
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    Feb 4, 2011, 10:21 AM

    WG, those pictures were horrific!

    The people stuck in cars must have been out of their minds with worry and panic, not too mention their families.

    The photo was cinamatic.

    The weather here has turned for the better, back to lashing rain and gail force winds.. Thank God, at least I know where I am with the rain!

    Tonight I'm planning a major pig out, mega chicken pizza and chunky chips (fries), a gateaux in the fridge and a shelf reserved for wine (for me) beer (for brendan). and the box set of KILL BILL lined up.

    Its 5.20 pm here, I'm in baggy pj's for the occasion, fire lighting and rain bashing off the windows...

    Food, fire and pj's... total bliss!

    All I need now is brendan to get home from work and were all set.
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    Feb 4, 2011, 01:32 PM

    Damn it red

    Good food
    Good drink
    And an excellent couple of movies

    :mad: <- this is my jelous face, I hope your happy
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    Feb 4, 2011, 02:11 PM
    :mad: I am with you on that one bear.
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    Feb 4, 2011, 10:39 PM

    In times like that, we should stay together!

    :mad:

    :p
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    Feb 5, 2011, 06:23 AM

    Mornin
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    Feb 5, 2011, 06:25 AM

    It's about time someone woke up around here! Martinizing and I are answering all the questions.
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    Feb 5, 2011, 06:31 AM

    I might go and check the boards. I haven't done that for a few days.

    I wasn't going to be back to work until Tuesday. Had a nice 4 day weekend lined out to get away from things. Then I get called into work this morning. Really makes for a bad day. Then I read some stuff that is probably about me and really isn't helping the case of me staying at this site.
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    Feb 5, 2011, 06:37 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by adam_89 View Post
    Then I read some stuff that is probably about me and really isn't helping the case of me staying at this site.
    Don't get paranoid. I would have quit long ago if I worried about people talking about me. What thread do you suspect? I'll go punch them out.

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