[twinkiedooter]

Let's see. It snowed a lot here recently and over the weekend it was WELL below ZERO here and that was not just the windchill either.

I guess they have the HAARP on again here in the USA with all the horribly severe cold weather. Minus 30 some in New York State!! You can't tell me that this is normal.

[paraclete]

I can't explain it, hence the use of the sarcasm font on Makes perfect sense. Apparently Siberian snow cover can't explain snowfall in Australia in December.

Yes strange that and it was followed by floods. Now let's expand the theory, it gets colder in Europe, etc, Northern hemisphere, snow and ice, and by the theory of global warming that means more water evaporates in the Southern hemisphere and falls as summer rain. Has anyone found the flaw yet? It cannot be hotter and colder at the same time. The coldest winter in Northern hemisphere and yet this was the hottest year on record. I'm beginning to wonder who is keeping the record, is he sitting next to the air conditioning condenser?

I said it before and I will say it again, natural variability, nothing here to suggest a run away greenhouse effect, in fact nothing that hasn't happened before, particularly in times of volcanic activity. I can expect a chorus of prove it, but my theories are no less unproven than global warming

[speechlesstx]

-5 deg this morning in Texas with a wind chill of -35... gimme some greenhouse effect.

[paraclete]

-5 deg this morning in Texas with a wind chill of -35...gimme some greenhouse effect.

How will you take that? With cyclonic winds? Oceans of water? It's not for want of trying you know! We are going full tilt down here pumping CO2

[excon]

Hello:

Yeah... It's raining here... Freezing cold.. Going to sneeze... Ahh, ahhhh, ahhhhhh, ahhhhhh- Chooooooalgore... Scuse me.

excon

[Stringer]

Photos of the huge winter snow storm moving across the US | Plog ? World news photography, Photos ? The Denver Post

Here are some pictures of the Chicago snow storm. About the first 30 or so are Chicago and the storm yesterday and this morning.

Stringer

[paraclete]

Photos of the huge winter snow storm moving across the US | Plog ? World news photography, Photos ? The Denver Post

Here are some pictures of the Chicago snow storm. About the first 30 or so are Chicago and the storm yesterday and this morning.

Stringer

Hmmmmm! A bit of a mess eh? And I complain when I get snow, which is almost never

[Stringer]

It actually was kind of fun Clete.

[speechlesstx]

How will you take that? with cyclonic winds?

How do you think we got that -35 wind chill? I was outside 2 minutes yesterday and I'm still cold.

[paraclete]

How do you think we got that -35 wind chill? I was outside 2 minutes yesterday and I'm still cold.

Not fun eh?

[speechlesstx]

No, not fun, lol.

[paraclete]

You must be a little soft, stringer in Chigago thought it was fun

[tomder55]

If it weren't for the travel issues I would not mind it at all. I stoke the fireplace and wait it out . Of course if I lived in an area where it's not a usual event... like where Steve resides ,I'd have a different take .

[speechlesstx]

You must be a little soft, stringer in Chigago thought it was fun

OK, so I'm soft. We're used to cold, we're used to getting a few storms dumping knee deep snow... we're just not used to those -35 wind chills. A good snow storm is fun, especially if we get a day off.

[speechlesstx]

The cold and high winds shut wind turbines down across the area... how ironic is that? Yet another example of how alternative energy sources are unreliable. I wonder if wind turbines had anything to do with recent massive bird die-offs. ;)

[Wondergirl]

Yet another example of how alternative energy sources are unreliable.

Yup. Dams break, nuclear reactors leak, oil wells dry up. Oh, those energy sources, alternative or not. Mother Nature just doesn't like us sometimes.

[speechlesstx]

Yup. Dams break, nuclear reactors leak, oil wells dry up. Oh, those energy sources, alternative or not. Mother Nature just doesn't like us sometimes.

I don't recall any recent dams breaking, reactors leaking and Obama won't allow drilling... sometimes Democrats just like us.

[excon]

Hello Steve:

I don't know why you disdain alternative energy. I spose you LIKE paying through the nose for gas, all the while enriching our enemies... Makes no sense to me..

You know when you turn on your lights, you can't tell WHICH energy source supplied the power.. But, YOUR house, Steve, should be segregated into old sources vs new sources, and it should switch OFF when you start getting electricity from sources you don't like... Certainly, a light that burns energy from wind, is a BAD light and should NOT be used by right wingers..

excon

[speechlesstx]

You know ex, I almost pre-empted your argument by saying "that doesn't mean we shouldn't try," but I thought I'd see if you could misrepresenting my position. Apparently not.

We have oil, lots of oil, but the feds won't let us get to it. We can't build refineries, the feds won't let us. We can't build nuclear power plants, the feds stand in the way, and don't even mention coal, which by the way, is what allows me to flip a light switch and turn the lights on.

Oh, and I've also said many times here I'd love to go solar, but after 50 years of developing the technology I still can't afford it.

[excon]

We have oil, lots of oil

Hello again, Steve:

Even IF we have enough to satisfy our immediate needs, we ARE running out. Or, do you, like clete, think we have a never ending supply?

Is it better to wait to replace it, or is it better to BEGIN the process NOW?? Me? I'd say NOW. You? Nahhh...

excon

PS> Did you notice that I didn't say anything about throwing your trash into the air??