[NeedKarma]

Just curious, how does science explain the ability to give and receive love?

I believe it's related to couple bonding and propagation of the species. As a counter I don't believe religion explains the ability to give and receive love either.

[shatteredsoul]

You cannot know hate, if you have never experienced love. All the emotions we feel are necessary, but chemicals in the brain cannot identify every feeling I have ever felt in my heart, whether hatred or love. At least not that I understand.

I think we are all supposed to experience every emotion in under to live life to the fullest. I don't think there is any grand plan the way we are supposed to feel, think, or respond. IT is a process of learning and discovering who we are. I don't know that science can explain that for me, but if that is what makes sense to you, I get that.

[NeedKarma]

You cannot know hate, if you have never experienced love.

Hate and love are learned traits not innate ones. One is taught to hate and to love from the moment one exits the womb. Of course that stirs up the whole nature vs nurture debate which can be an entirely separate thread. :)

[shatteredsoul]

So true so true, but every emotion that a newborn feels. IT is a fact that babies who are not held or talked to, have serious adverse affects. If the stimulation of touch and need to be held wasn't part of that, than I would agree with you. There is a need to be nurtured from the moment you arrive on earth. Everyone desires to be loved. That is why we are here.

[NeedKarma]

Shattered, you just explained my purpose in life: to be a loving parent to my kids. :)

[shatteredsoul]

AHHHHH!! Sorry I deleted my words. I meant to say, every emotion a newborn feels, they have before they have been taught to feel anything. To me, to feel is innate and not learned.

[NeedKarma]

So those that hate all black people, that was in them from birth??

[startover22]

So those that hate all black people, that was in them from birth????

Nope, but wanting love is.

[shatteredsoul]

The ability to have emotions and feelings is with you from birth, the life experiences you have and how you are raised, determines the hate that you have in your heart.

[NeedKarma]

Fair enough. It doesn't explain anything but we can agree that the ability to feel emotions is there from birth. Same with dogs and cats and snakes and toads.

[startover22]

As a believer in The Creator of the worlds, I have always wondered how an atheist comes to the conclusion that God is non existent ?
Please do not think that I am going to argue your points,just curious!!!:confused:

Thanks in advance.

I still haven't seen an answer to this question...
I just don't think there is proof, PROOF enough to answer it. No one can tell me he does exist and no one can tell me he doesn't. I CHOOSE to believe in him.

[shatteredsoul]

That is the great thing about this life, we are given free will.
What a wonderful world we were given. WE have everything we need to survive and yet we still want answers. The human ego is a struggle, for me especially.
My choice is to recognize the beauty in things, the love I feel and see around me, and the ability to share my points of view with every kind of person. I thank you all for your observations and perspectives, they are all unique. Just like us.

[Capuchin]

The problem is that there's no proof for a hell of a lot of things, like flying lemons and peanut-butter-planets.

By your reasoning, that means that these things exist and can be believed in.

It is not up to atheists to prove that there is no god, it's up to the believers to provide evidence for a god, or else your god is no better than a flying lemon or a peanut-butter-planet.

[startover22]

There is no Proof, except the writtings of others to tell us. So we have to use our own judgement on whether we want to take the chance in not believing. Again, I choose to believe, some out of fear, and some out of the deepest gut feeling I have ever had in my life. I guess I am only looking for answers from myself... but I enjoy reading yours.

[Capuchin]

shatteredsoul: The fact that there is no evidence of its existence is evidence that it doesn't exist.

[startover22]

Nooooooo! Lol

[NeedKarma]

whether we want to take the chance in not believing.

There is no 'chance' being taken but thank you for your concern.

[shatteredsoul]

Either way, I think the point was, there isn't proof to disprove that God exists, as there isn't proof to say that God does exist. Either way, it is based on a personal BELIEF. Which requires either a faith in God, or a faith in no God.
By the way, didn't Einstein also prove that time doesn't exist, that it is really a continuim? IF that is true, than our understanding of how long we have been here doesn't really exist. Or how old we are. Or how long the earth or the universe has been here. So, why do we have time if that doesn't exist?

[startover22]

There is no 'chance' being taken but thank you for your concern.

Ok, yes I guess that is my concern, I mean to say that I get scared at the thought of not believing. I have believed all of my life, from my experiences, what has been told to me, my family now, it is a huge step to not believe. At least for me. Although that is the road I have been on this past year. I am a little concerned, that is for sure.

[firmbeliever]

I saw someone say on another thread(cant remember who it was),
"the ones who work for a heaven have nothing to lose if they are wrong,but what if the ones who dont believe are wrong ?"
Not the exact words but something to that effect...