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talaniman · Apr 27, 2020, 05:41 AM

That was pretty good JL. Took a minute to soak in, but I got it! 8D

Post #79 response

1. You make a mountain from a molehill, and crazy to mix english standards with math standards. Dissapointing comparison.

2. It was my honest opinion, but more accurately Athos's honest opinion I agreed with. Thus my vote which I didn't have to hold my nose to make. Can't you just vote NO without the jibber jabber?

jlisenbe · Apr 27, 2020, 05:48 AM

It was my honest opinion, but more accurately Athos's honest opinion I agreed with.

Opinion about what? He had many of them. If you are agreeing with his opinion of Trump, then that's to be expected. Please, please tell me you are not agreeing with his ideas about direct quotations and paraphrasing.

Tell me again what the "8D" means. I am old.

You make a mountain from a molehill,

You might be right about that. To explain, we have an old saying in Mississippi that I'm sure you are familiar with. "Don't pour water (we actually use a different word) out of your boot on my head and try to tell me it's raining." Well, don't use a direct quote and then try to tell me it's a paraphrase. The truth still matters.

crazy to mix english standards with math standards. Dissapointing comparison.

Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill. Goodness.

jlisenbe · Apr 27, 2020, 06:23 AM

Another laugh.

talaniman · Apr 27, 2020, 06:35 AM

Now that was a hoot!

Tell me again what the "8D" means. I am old.

Turn your head sideways and see if it makes sense you old coot!

jlisenbe · Apr 27, 2020, 10:21 AM

Smiley face???

talaniman · Apr 27, 2020, 12:22 PM

Actually its a huge grin face. 8) is a smiley face.

jlisenbe · Apr 27, 2020, 01:33 PM

Gosh!! It's all so complicated. 8D

paraclete · Apr 27, 2020, 05:36 PM

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Athos · Apr 27, 2020, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Evidently in your world copying and pasting exactly another person's words amounts to a liberal paraphrase.

Trouble reading? Here is what I said. If you had followed my instructions, you would learn something.

You are clueless in many things. As a literalist, there is much beyond paraphrasing that you miss. Trump communicates to his flock in more ways than one. Google "dog whistle" to learn one way.

Note: "...beyond paraphrasing..."

Employing provocative and inaccurate descriptions of a person's words is completely honest...in your world, at least.

I was describing Trump's incitement to his supporters to "liberate" Virginia. They obeyed, as the picture clearly shows, armed with AR-15s and AK-47s and toting pro-Trump signs. Reports from all over the country described the incident exactly as I did. Why you characterize my words as inaccurate is simply another indication of your inability (or refusal) to comprehend the obvious.

paraclete · Apr 27, 2020, 05:44 PM

refusal to comprehend the obvious.

got it in one

jlisenbe · Apr 27, 2020, 05:44 PM

It's alright Athos. I realize your world is a very different place. Hope you enjoy it. I'm just glad I don't live there where a paraphrase and a direct quote are interchangeable. For example, I stated, "I quoted Athos exactly." Your ridiculous reply was, ""Somebody is confused. " Well, you were write about somebody being confused. The somebody was you.

As to the pres, here is your QUOTE.

"Trump calls for insurrection."

"Republicans will turn a blind eye. But history books will say: In April of 2020, when the pandemic had already claimed 35,000 lives, the President of the United States incited people to storm their statehouses with AR-15s and AK-47s."

Never called for insurrection. Never called for guns. Never called for anyone to storm a statehouse. Your description was ridiculous.

Athos · Apr 27, 2020, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Never called for insurrection. Never called for guns. Never called for anyone to storm a statehouse. Your description was ridiculous.

You still don't get it. I suggested you read up on "dog whistle"

Wondergirl · Apr 27, 2020, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

It's alright Athos. I realize your world is a very different place. Hope you enjoy it. I'm just glad I don't live there where a paraphrase and a direct quote are interchangeable.

That is not what Athos and I have said. They are NOT interchangeable!

JL said -- As to the pres, here is your QUOTE.

"Trump calls for insurrection."

"Republicans will turn a blind eye. But history books will say: In April of 2020, when the pandemic had already claimed 35,000 lives, the President of the United States incited people to storm their statehouses with AR-15s and AK-47s."

Never called for insurrection. Never called for guns. Never called for anyone to storm a statehouse. Your description was ridiculous.

"Incite," according to Dictionary.com et al. is defined as "to stir, encourage, or urge on."

Trump definitely stirred and encouraged his base to "liberate," which they interpreted to mean make signs, pull their semi-automatics out from under the bed, flout social-distancing orders, eschew protective masks, and assemble with signs and guns (while coughing and sneezing on each other?) to storm government buildings.

(Haven't we already been down this road but with fish-tank cleaner. disinfectants, and UV light?)

jlisenbe · Apr 27, 2020, 06:46 PM

They are NOT interchangeable!

Well I'm glad you finally see the light. So when Tal puts words within quotation marks, he is not paraphrasing as you said he was in post 43. We are making progress at last.

Wondergirl · Apr 27, 2020, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Well I'm glad you finally see the light. So when Tal puts words within quotation marks, he is not paraphrasing as you said he was in post 43. We are making progress at last.

You really don't get it, do you.

jlisenbe · Apr 27, 2020, 07:19 PM

I get this very well. "So when Tal puts words within quotation marks, he is not paraphrasing as you said he was in post 43." That I get very plainly.

Wondergirl · Apr 27, 2020, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

I get this very well. "So when Tal puts words within quotation marks, he is not paraphrasing as you said he was in post 43." That I get very plainly.

Nope. You've missed the boat.

And do you see the mistake in this sentence of yours in your post I quoted in #43?

"And, I suppose, in your's as well, and that's a scary thought."

Athos · Apr 27, 2020, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

What you posted and I copied.

Trump Calls for Insurrection

Republicans will turn a blind eye. But history books will say: In April of 2020, when the pandemic had already claimed 35,000 lives, the President of the United States incited people to storm their statehouses with AR-15s and AK-47s.

It's not my intention to "bash" anyone, but she knows what has caused this problem in the past few days. When she claims, for instance, that I "liberally" paraphrased you when in fact I copied and pasted your exact statement, then it has become past ridiculous.

You claimed I quoted Trump. I did no such thing. You insisted. So I went back and re-read the entire two threads - this one and the one about insurrection. What you claimed was my quoting Trump were MY OWN WORDS. You then copied those charging me with quoting Trump.

At one point (already pointed out to you) you even denied that I quoted Trump. Your anger is leading you far astray and into the world of self-delusion.

Jl, this discussion on quotation and paraphrase, etc., among you and WG and Tal has become another obsession by you. They are both correct on the issue but you just can't let it go.

You are the King of nit-pickers.

paraclete · Apr 27, 2020, 09:38 PM

You are the King of nit-pickers.

No, he is the king of nits, he just likes to argue, and to do so he will twist what you say. It is useless debating him

jlisenbe · Apr 28, 2020, 03:43 AM

You claimed I quoted Trump. I did no such thing. You insisted.

That's already been straightened out. This discussion is not about that. If any of you want to believe that a quote is a paraphrase, then go for it. When WG claims that words within quotation marks are a paraphrase, and you consider that to be correct, then that's a fantasy world I don't want to live in.