[smoothy]

Huh? I am in the swirl of things and read a lot and watch MSNBC and talk to people and have never heard that.

I think that's the problem... you might be their (MSNBC) entire audience. That and maybe 3 or 4 other people that tuned in by accident.

[talaniman]

We have had that argument before and 5 million votes difference can't be all fraud. We do have documented evidence on tape of confessions on your side, shaving votes strategy with voter ID, eliminating early voting, and employing shady characters to register REPUBLICAN voters in 3 states.

You and your opinion is a minority one not based in facts. 5 million votes?? We ain't that good. Get with reality man and dig a hole to hide in until the right wing messiah wins the white house, senate, and house. Take extra chips and a change of DEPENDS, it may be a while.

are you asking me? Not sure i understand your question....do you mean restrictions on who i can go to, restrictions with needing referrals? That sort of thing?

Yes, :)

[smoothy]

I think thats the problem...you might be their (MSNBC) entire audience. that and maybe 3 or 4 other people that tuned in by accident.

I think they broadcast from inside one of the State hosiptals for the Criminally Insane.

[smoothy]

We have had that argument before and 5 million votes difference can't be all fraud. We do have documented evidence on tape of confessions on your side, shaving votes strategy with voter ID, eliminating early voting, and employing shady characters to register REPUBLICAN voters in 3 states.

You and your opinion is a minority one not based in facts. 5 million votes??? We ain't that good. Get with reality man and dig a hole to hide in until the right wing messiah wins the white house, senate, and house. Take extra chips and a change of DEPENDS, it may be a while.

We've proven it... you just don't want to accept it... big differnce.

I suppose you believe Benghazi was about a video nobody ever saw... and the Holder never sold a single weapon to theMexican Drug cartels... because Obama says so?

[Wondergirl]

I think thats the problem...you might be their (MSNBC) entire audience. that and maybe 3 or 4 other people that tuned in by accident.

Even I am giving upon MSNBC (they talk too fast, are reading off teleprompters I bet, no longer seem to have an original thought in their heads, lie and tell half truths, and a few more irritations I can't think of right now), but it would be there that a third term would be mentioned.

[smoothy]

Even I am giving upon MSNBC (they talk too fast, are reading off teleprompters I bet, no longer seem to have an original thought in their heads, lie and tell half truths, and a few more irritations I can't think of right now), but it would be there that a third term would be mentioned.

Same holds true for ABC, NBC, CBS and NPR... their one goal is protect Obama by hiding facts and flat out lying in news reports...

Then there are the newspapers... and you don't even have to have inside connections to see how often they lie in their stories... the truth gets out by so many sources today its why almost all the leftie papers are on the verge of bankruptcy... their readers are wise to them and are cancelling subscriptions to what have become just like PRAVDA was back in the old Soviet Union. Pure propaganda... and little reality.

Just like a witness on the stand... once the lies start... any credibility they might have had is gone.

[talaniman]

I strongly advise you to get out of the loony right wing bubble for at least an hour everyday. Start with an hour every year and work your way up.

Good luck.

>Please no greenies for good advice<

[smoothy]

I strongly advise you to get out of the loony right wing bubble for at least an hour everyday. Start with an hour every year and work your way up.

Good luck.

>Please no greenies for good advice<

I'm hardly in a right wing bubble... I'm right smack in the middle of leftyland (Washington, DC) which is through the looking glass, and where reality much less common sense has no place. And the local government might even be more corrupt than Cuba. Nobody tops Chicago for corruption though.

[Wondergirl]

Same holds true for ABC, NBC, CBS and NPR.....

And FOX.

As for newspapers, Chicago has two -- right and left. I read both. Plus magazines that are of both political persuasions. I want to know my friends as well as my enemies.

[smoothy]

And FOX.

As for newspapers, Chicago has two -- right and left. I read both. Plus magazines that are of both political persuasions. I want to know my friends as well as my enemies.

Fox is orders of magnitude more accurate than the others...

As far as newspapers... most of them are barely worthy of lining the bottom of a bird cage these days.

[Wondergirl]

Fox is orders of magnitude more accurate than the others.....

*cough*

[smoothy]

*cough*

I said orders of magnitude better... not 100% accurate

[Wondergirl]

I said orders of magnitude better....not 100% accurate

I notice they too are hiring young people who don't know which end is up. And O'Reilly is as bad as Chris Matthews -- asking a guest a question and then overtalking and interrupting him repeatedly when the poor guest tries to answer.

[talaniman]

I'm hardly in a right wing bubble...I'm right smack in the middle of leftyland which is through the looking glass, and where reality much less common sense has no place.

Ah man so sorry for misjudging you so harshly. The left has as many loons and wingnuts as the right. Not as noisy though they can be placated to some extent.

[smoothy]

I notice they too are hiring young people who don't know which end is up. And O'Reilly is as bad as Chris Matthews -- asking a guest a question and then overtalking and interrupting him repeatedly when the poor guest tries to answer.

At least he doesn't "get a tingly feeling running up his leg."...

Also there is a differnce... O'Reily is a commentator... not a news reporter or news anchor... Chris Matthews is.

[aliseaodo]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aliseaodo View Post
Are you asking me? Not sure I understand your question... do you mean restrictions on who I can go to, restrictions with needing referrals? That sort of thing?

Yes,

Soo, as far as my experience, I have never needed a referral - I can walk into anywhere and if they except my insurance I'm in. (Granted they're accepting new patients and all that jazz.. )
Here's my plan book. Pages 19 through 24 are the explanation of coverage.http://www.wpas-inc.com/documents/F3...ithInserts.pdf
This is info on my network:
https://www.fchn.com/ppo/

*btw I'm Class 1*

[smearcase]

"the gangs in Chicago" to start with.
Wasn't there discussion about utilizing the National Guard in Chicago?

I have smoke detectors that have never warned me of smoke, fire extinguishers never used, locks on the doors that have never been tested by bad guys--some gout pills in case of a flare-up (haven't had one since I got the prescrip. etc.)
Not needing something in the past doesn't rule out possible need in the future.
Home invasions are still a popular sport in my tri-state area.
Waking up with a gun to my head (as happens in most of the cases) doesn't appeal to me. And yes, as I think we discussed before, I have measures in place to alert me before they get close enough to that too.
Hope you freshen up on the ammo once in a while WG, and also hope you never have to use it.
Those of us who served in the military learned to prepare for the unexpected.

[Wondergirl]

"the gangs in Chicago" to start with.
Wasn't there discussion about utilizing the National Guard in Chicago?

Yes, but that's been thrown out. The Chicago chief of police has put more cops on the street around the clock in the bad neighborhoods, and that seems to be helping -- but they can't be everywhere at once. Girls getting pregnant at 13, kids with no dads (or good role models) around, poor parenting, under-performing schools, no job training and no jobs, no community spirit, etc. etc. etc. are all part of the gang problem.

Hope you freshen up on the ammo once in a while WG, and also hope you never have to use it.

We keep the powder dry here.

[talaniman]

Soo, as far as my experience, I have never needed a referral - I can walk into anywhere and if they except my insurance I'm in. (Granted they're accepting new patients and all that jazz..)
Here's my plan book. Pages 19 through 24 are the explanation of coverage.http://www.wpas-inc.com/documents/F3...ithInserts.pdf
This is info on my network:
https://www.fchn.com/ppo/

*btw I'm Class 1*

Thanks I appreciate the info to compare with. My pet peeve is that righties want to repeal the law, but don't offer replacements that make sense at this time. I am watching my own Senator from Texas speaking in the senate, and never not once has he offered a plan to address all the uninsured in Texas a viable plan, let alone the rest of the country, or ever rising costs.

I mean damn all those young people that have to pay now will benefit as they get older for sure when arthritis replaces piss and vinegar.

[aliseaodo]

In looking through my plan book, I saw that I was incorrect about my deductible - it is $300/yr per person, topping out at $600, NOT $250 topping out at $500 as I thought...