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Nov 20, 2012, 10:56 AM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
They depend on family members to bank and shop for food. They have legal forms of ID (library card, birth certificate, etc.), but not photo ID because they don't drive.
Maybe homebound and bedbound people shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Photo IDs don't HAVE to be drivers licenses. In fact EVERY state issues Photo ID's to non-drivers and always have. I bet if they needed to see a Doctor they would get out of that house fast enough...
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Nov 20, 2012, 11:03 AM
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 Originally Posted by smoothy
Photo IDs don't HAVE to be drivers liscenses. In fact EVERY state issues Photo ID's to non-drivers and always have. I bet if they needed to see a Doctor they would get out of that house fast enough.....
My mil's doctor and various home health care workers made housecalls. She had been a non-driver for years and had no photo ID. The state one has to be obtained at the DMV which she couldn't get to easily.
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Nov 20, 2012, 11:18 AM
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Hello again, Carol:
I appreciate your efforts.. But, smoothy will NEVER understand the community that you're talking about. He's no different than the other right wingers here, though. There's NO empathy there - NONE.
OR, they know very well what community it is and they don't WANT them to vote. What do you think?
excon
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Nov 20, 2012, 11:32 AM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Carol:
I appreciate your efforts.. But, smoothy will NEVER understand the community that you're talking about. He's no different than the other right wingers here, though. There's NO empathy there - NONE.
OR, they know very well what community it is and they don't WANT them to vote. What do you think?
excon
Carol used to drive, did she have a license? If she did, why didn't she keep up with an ID?
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Nov 20, 2012, 11:33 AM
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I know its hard but it helps to read what's already been discussed before bringing it up again. And how much fraud can you prove? I say none on our side, but loads on yours, and your side still lost.
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Nov 20, 2012, 11:34 AM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
I know its hard but it helps to read whats already been discussed before bringing it up again. And how much fraud can you prove? I say none on our side, but loads on yours, and your side still lost.
ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz
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Nov 20, 2012, 11:42 AM
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Just for the record, the boys smacked the pack. After your snooze of course.
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Nov 20, 2012, 11:52 AM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
Just for the record, the boys smacked the pack. After your snooze of course.
You smacked the Futbalasaurs, or are you fishing for a trophy for last week?
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Nov 20, 2012, 12:04 PM
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I mean't Week 10.
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Nov 20, 2012, 12:05 PM
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We're all just fighting for second anyway.
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Nov 20, 2012, 12:08 PM
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Practising for the playoffs.
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Nov 20, 2012, 12:14 PM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Carol:
I appreciate your efforts.. But, smoothy will NEVER understand the community that you're talking about. He's no different than the other right wingers here, though. There's NO empathy there - NONE.
OR, they know very well what community it is and they don't WANT them to vote. What do you think?
excon
You mean the community of illegals, Felons, Dead people and those that feel they are entitled to vote as many times as they can get away with?
Because you can't do much of anything without a legal ID... there is NO reason someone too lazy to get one should be allowed to vote until they can prove they are who they claim.
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Nov 20, 2012, 12:52 PM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
We're all just fighting for second anyway.
I'll whup little sis this week... although it would've been easier if Gronk didn't get lost for the season on a meaningless extra point play.
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Nov 20, 2012, 01:03 PM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
I'll whup lil sis this week...although it would've been easier if Gronk didn't get lost for the season on a meaningless extra point play.
Good luck with that, she seems to have the touch. Opposing teams just inexplicably fail to show up.
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Nov 20, 2012, 01:37 PM
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She's due for a a$$ kicking... she mocks me for getting a trophy for beating her by 1 pt last time.
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Nov 20, 2012, 02:32 PM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
She's due for a a$$ kicking ... she mocks me for getting a trophy for beating her by 1 pt last time.
Take her down.
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Nov 21, 2012, 05:47 AM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
We're not the ones throwing a fit over any attempt to tighten standards.
Tightening standards is only going to solve one problem. As Tom is right when he points out that things are only going to get worse with the advent of electronic voting. Voter I.D. will be irrelevant when it comes to electronic fraud.
Anyway. I get the message. If your system is ideologically sound but dysfunctional when it comes to delivering a proper result then there is nothing that can be done. There other option that seems popular is to talk around the problem.
Tut
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Nov 21, 2012, 06:02 AM
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What they need is a good ole about of proportional representation
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Nov 21, 2012, 07:09 AM
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 Originally Posted by paraclete
what they need is a good ole bout of proportional representation
That would be our House of Representatives.
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Nov 22, 2012, 05:40 AM
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 Originally Posted by paraclete
what they need is a good ole bout of proportional representation
Perhaps a good dose of what is happening at the moment, or more importantly, what is going to happen in the future.
Tut
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