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    #841

    Apr 23, 2013, 07:34 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello smoothy:

    Why don't you stick your right wing sh1t UP your a$$. Fu*k you!

    excon
    I see that gets your attention...
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    #842

    Apr 23, 2013, 07:35 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Ex that's not nice, smoothy doesn't know his arse from his apex, look, he is probably a dope sniffer anyway, you might get shafted for this one, mate
    I don't eat bar-B-que Koala bear...
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    #843

    Apr 23, 2013, 08:26 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by cdad View Post
    Since your speaking up about it. In your ideal world what do you want done with what is already out there as far as the gun issues go ?
    Being able to tell the good guys from the bad guys and crazy people. And some reasonable dialog without paranoia and fear dictating everything.

    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    no you are quite wrong about that;and dad is right ... there really was a means for a back door registry . The only restriction in the bill was if the Justice Dept kept such a registry . It did not restrict the one agency that is going to ask EVERY American adult if they own a gun....HHS .
    Yeah your family doctor asking is a threat to your rights Sheeesh!! He only asks if he thought you were a dangerous NUT!! Are you?
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    Apr 24, 2013, 03:45 AM
    Not true... The President announced 23 executive actions on Jan. 16 addressing gun violence . Number 16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
    It's a small step from that the HHS mandating that doctors add it to the ever expanding questionnaire they are required to ask under Obamacare . Many already have. It's a clever play on words for the legislation to prohibit the Justice Dept from keeping a registry .
    The limit on creating a registry applies only to the Attorney General (and thus to entities under his direct control, such as the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives). By a straightforward application of inclusio unius exclusio alterius it is permissible for entities other than the Attorney General to create gun registries, using whatever information they can acquire from their own operations. For example, the Secretary of HHS may consolidate and centralize whatever firearms records are maintained by any medical or health insurance entity. The Secretary of the Army may consolidate and centralize records about personal guns owned by military personnel and their families.
    The Volokh Conspiracy » The “Pro-Gun” Provisions of Manchin-Toomey are Actually a Bonanza of Gun Control
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    Apr 24, 2013, 04:43 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    I don't eat bar-B-que Koala bear.....
    Nor do I it's a protected species what I suggest you go find a wild boar you would be great mates
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    #846

    Apr 24, 2013, 04:58 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    nor do I it's a protected species what I suggest you go find a wild boar you would be great mates
    Wild boar makes for good eating...

    It's a delicacy in Italy... chingiale

    Cinghiale: Wild Boar

    All they are is little more than feral hogs... and genetically they are very close to domestic hogs.
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    #847

    Apr 24, 2013, 05:09 AM
    Taste good and a real menace ,sort of like the deer population in NY . What we need to do is encourage hunters to kill them and donate the meat to shelters .
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    #848

    Apr 24, 2013, 05:24 AM
    Careful now, Speech will come along shortly to tell how irrelevant your posts are and how stupid you all are.
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    Apr 24, 2013, 06:31 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Careful now, Speech will come along shortly to tell how irrelevant your posts are and how stupid you all are.
    That was totally uncalled for.
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    #850

    Apr 24, 2013, 06:32 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    not true ... The President announced 23 executive actions on Jan. 16 addressing gun violence . Number 16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
    It's a small step from that the HHS mandating that doctors add it to the ever expanding questionaire they are required to ask under Obamacare . Many already have. It's a clever play on words for the legislation to prohibit the Justice Dept from keeping a registry .

    The Volokh Conspiracy » The “Pro-Gun” Provisions of Manchin-Toomey are Actually a Bonanza of Gun Control
    I reckon if my doc asks I'll just have to lie to him.
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    #851

    Apr 24, 2013, 06:32 AM
    Lol!
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    #852

    Apr 24, 2013, 06:49 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    lol!
    Rhymes with troll.
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    #853

    Apr 24, 2013, 07:13 AM

    Stop stalking me!!!!!
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    #854

    Apr 24, 2013, 07:37 AM
    Grow up.
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    Apr 24, 2013, 08:14 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    not true ... The President announced 23 executive actions on Jan. 16 addressing gun violence . Number 16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
    It's a small step from that the HHS mandating that doctors add it to the ever expanding questionaire they are required to ask under Obamacare . Many already have. It's a clever play on words for the legislation to prohibit the Justice Dept from keeping a registry .

    The Volokh Conspiracy » The “Pro-Gun” Provisions of Manchin-Toomey are Actually a Bonanza of Gun Control
    It might be a small step to identifying whether a patient with mental issues or under strong medication can become dangerous to himself, or others. I mean you do want a list of those people don't you? Probably not.

    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I reckon if my doc asks I'll just have to lie to him.
    Good then the doctor won't be responsible for knowingly letting a dangerous loony bird with access to a firearm should you go off and shoot up a movie theater. You do see where a crazy person with a gun is dangerous don't you?
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    Apr 24, 2013, 08:21 AM
    Why should doctors be tattling to the government who owns a gun or not... why should a docter even know if you have a gun or not... what business is it of theirs.

    This is not unlike getting kids to tattle on their parents like under Pol Pot in Cambodia, under the old Soviet Union... or under Chairman Mao... or any other number of oppressive regimes.

    Reporting the mentally unstable is their field... not trying to be a back door to finding out who owns a gun or not.
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    Apr 24, 2013, 08:29 AM
    Or a more saner version of your rant is he may not prescribe certain things if he knows you can shoot up your own family, or shoot yourself. I know, you can't imagine any drug that make you crazier than what you are. Honestly, neither can I even if you add loads of alcohol. But you never know.

    If meds can say don't drive or operate machinery, why can't a doctor tellyou don't play with a loaded gun?
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    Apr 24, 2013, 09:06 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Good then the doctor won't be responsible for knowingly letting a dangerous loony bird with access to a firearm should you go off and shoot up a movie theater. You do see where a crazy person with a gun is dangerous don't you?
    I answered that before you asked it, but since I'm not a loon if my doctor asked me that I'd tell him it was none of his business.
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    #859

    Apr 24, 2013, 09:29 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    Gun control is dead. So is immigration reform, but I don't want to get ahead of myself.. My question is twofold. The polls say 90% of the people wanted, even the watered down background check bill to become law.

    (1) Are the polls wrong?

    (2) If they're right, will the senators who voted against it be punished by the voters?

    (3) Why?

    excon
    Apparently the only ones really angry about it are 26 percent of Democrats. That's got to be another kick in the groin to Obama after trying so hard to fool the people into buying into his BS.
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    #860

    Apr 24, 2013, 09:29 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I answered that before you asked it, but since I'm not a loon if my doctor asked me that I'd tell him it was none of his business.
    Take TWO aspirin, call me in the morning. If paranoia persist seek an emergency free clinic.

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