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    #61

    Jul 6, 2022, 05:47 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    ... yet people want to complain about men getting women pregnant. It's like me leaving my doors unlocked and open but then complaining about getting robbed.
    1. And if (when!!!) we tell you, "No, thanks"?

    2. Why is "Don't have sex unless you're ready to have a baby" said only to women and not to men?
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    Jul 6, 2022, 05:51 PM
    Then the answer is no. Anything beyond that is rape. Is there something here difficult to understand???
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    Jul 6, 2022, 06:04 PM


    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    But it does not address the issue of married men having no say according to you if their baby gets killed .
    Of course he should have a say!
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    Jul 6, 2022, 06:07 PM
    Isn't it funny that Ian knew one was an elephant and one was a dog. Not clumps of cells, but an elephant and a dog. Wonder why people can't figure out what a human is?
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    Jul 6, 2022, 06:11 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Isn't it funny that Ian knew one was an elephant and one was a dog. Not clumps of cells, but an elephant and a dog. Wonder why people can't figure out what a human is?
    Ian knew what they were and posted them and then asked the question.
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    #66

    Jul 6, 2022, 06:23 PM
    I could post a pic of a new born and ask the same stupid question. They cannot live on their own or make choices on their own…yet. Just a matter of time and keeping liberal dems from killing them.
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    Jul 6, 2022, 06:37 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I could post a pic of a new born and ask the same stupid question.
    "New born" is one word. You're welcome.

    You'd be able to tell the difference between a newborn human and a newborn elephant or newborn dog?

    Hate to upset you. Many righty repubs have killed human unborns.
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    Jul 6, 2022, 07:12 PM
    have killed human unborns.
    "Unborn" is an adjective and not a noun. You're welcome.

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/...english/unborn

    Only repubs stand up for the rights of unborn babies. I've certainly not seen you do it.
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    Jul 6, 2022, 07:20 PM
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    "Unborn" is an adjective and not a noun. You're welcome
    1. unborn noun. A single unborn offspring at any stage of gestation.
    2. unborn noun. Unborn offspring collectively. Inheritance law allows property to be left to the unborn.
    3. unborn adjective. not yet born; yet to come; future.
    4. unborn adjective. not yet delivered; still existing in the mother's womb.

    from Wiktionary
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    #70

    Jul 6, 2022, 07:25 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Only repubs stand up for the rights of unborn babies. I've certainly not seen you do it.
    I am a registered Republican and a lifelong Christian.
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    Jul 6, 2022, 07:52 PM
    "I am a registered Republican and a lifelong Christian," who, as I said, does not stand up for unborn babies. I said nothing about your political affiliation or religion, but I do know you are fine with killing unborn children. And there is, by the way, no such thing as a "lifelong Christian".

    You can go with "Wiktionary". I'll stick with Cambridge and Merriam Webster.
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    #72

    Jul 6, 2022, 08:06 PM
    Mr. Judge and Jury. Those poor unborns!!!!
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    #73

    Jul 6, 2022, 08:11 PM
    Those poor unborns!!!!
    Yes, indeed. It is tragic to have your life snuffed out before you even get a chance at birth. Those unborn children deserve better. What a shame that you can't get behind that idea.
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    Jul 7, 2022, 02:16 PM
    In just 14 years, the fertility rate has crashed from 2.12 to 1.64, meaning that both citizens and resident aliens in America are not replacing themselves.
    While past demographic momentum has led to an all-time population high, the United States has already peaked demographically. And it will soon shrink and further age.
    Thirty years ago, America had 80 million fewer people, but a quarter-million more annual births.
    What explains the disappearing American?
    Historically, as Westernized cultures become more affluent and leisured, whether it’s ancient Rome or modern America and Europe, they birth fewer children—even as their appetites for more household and personal help spike.
    Life apparently is seen as too enjoyable to invest years in raising children..........



    Figures on annual abortions remain hotly disputed. But the number of annual reported abortions still ranges somewhere between more than 600,000 to just under 900,000.
    There may be almost 20 abortions for every 100 American pregnancies, or 1 in 5 pregnancies that are terminated.
    Our popular culture reflects this multifarious growing reluctance to raise children. And currently only 65% of children grow up in families with both parents.
    The 2012 Obamacare ad “The Life of Julia” fixated on the new ideal American woman: a single parent of one child, unmarried, and utterly reliant on nearly 65 years of government support.
    The 2013 follow-up bookend ad fetishized “Pajama Boy.” He was supposed to be a typical prolonged-adolescent, man-child—sitting at home in his childlike footie pajamas, sipping hot chocolate.
    “Pajama Boy” was likely the sort that “Julia” had no intention of marrying.
    There are historical downsides—economic, cultural, social, and military—to nations that shun child-raising. They shrink in size, age, no longer believe in transcendence, become mostly agnostic or atheistic, and obsess on the self.
    And sometimes they eventually become dysfunctional—and slowly disappear.

    What Explains the Disappearing American? (dailysignal.com)
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    #75

    Jul 9, 2022, 09:05 AM
    Clueless tells of a 10 year old girl who had to travel out of state to terminate the presidency .

    Biden outraged over 10-year-old rape victim unable to get abortion in Ohio | DW News - YouTube
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    Jul 9, 2022, 09:32 AM
    It seems that Biden had it backwards. The girl had to go to Indiana, not Ohio. And yeah, it sure sounds like he says to "terminate the presidency".

    The whole issue of rape and incest will be on the front burner of the abortion debate.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jul/03/ohio-indiana-abortion-rape-victim
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    Jul 9, 2022, 12:39 PM
    That is because it is the only argument they have without admitting that the vast majority of abortions have nothing to do with rape and incest .The vast majority are contraception after the fact .
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    Jul 9, 2022, 01:36 PM
    That is correct. Something like 99% of abortions are pretty much elective.
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    Jul 9, 2022, 01:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    That is correct. Something like 99% of abortions are pretty much elective.
    And during the first trimester.
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    Jul 9, 2022, 01:58 PM
    Nope. A little less than 90% are in the first trimester.

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