[J_9]

Clete. It is as simple as that. You are more likely to catch the common cold or the flu from an infected person than you are Ebola from an infected person.

[DoulaLC]

@Yes is it the end of the beginning or the beginning of the end


I was referring to the high media coverage... but yes, you could be right, or not. If you are right, nothing done would stop it anyway if that is the direction things are meant to go.

[tickle]

Clete, no it isn't SIMPLE. In Africa taking care of personal hygiene isn't simple. There are more ways to come in contact with bodily fluids there, then here. Of course they know THIS.

[paraclete]

I haven't heard of any news ways to come into contact with bodily fluids in Africa, personally, whilst it is well intentioned, it might be time to withdraw if they haven't the facilities to treat these patients

[tickle]

What do you mean 'any new ways'. Doctors and nurses over there are using (wearing) universal precaution suits which is intended to protect them from coming into contact with contaminated material. The patients have to be kept clean. They are probably very incontinent both ways, feces and urine, and vomit; this is how it is spread with body fluids such as this.

Then there is the possibility of drinking water being contaminated.

Think about that aspect.

We can't withdraw from treating.

[paraclete]

If what you say is true treating these patients has a high probability of being a death sentence. The way to deal with this is isolation

[talaniman]

I will stick with the scientists Clete, if you don't mind.

WHO | Ebola virus disease

They need supplies and resources.

[smoothy]

If it comes from the same people that kept telling us Bush was responsible for the last Ice age ending, and the Veterans Administration mess, the CDC finding decades old dangerous disease samples in a storage room, and that Obamacare would save everyone $2,500 or more every year...

I tend to not believe anything else they try to cram down our throats either.

[tickle]

They are in isolation, although some are in tents, which isn't the best, but they doing the best they can with what they have.

Families though are hoarding their sick and trying to treat them. Can you see what a horror show that is. One of the symptoms of Ebola is extreme bleeding (of infected blood).

[paraclete]

By Isolation I mean the countries need to be isolated to avoid the spread to other parts of the world, already you have aid workers transported to other parts of the world as if their needs transcend the general population. Yes resources are needed but the best you can hope for are tent hospitals, inferstructure takes time, and in the meantime each case needs isolation

Tal the WHO offer no specific guidelines on care beyond being careful but they have declared this
a public healh emergency so follow their lead

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-0...rgency/5657562

[smoothy]

Well what I predicted as well as others has proven to be true. One of the Health Care workers in Houston that was treating the liar that snuck into this country infected... and later died, has become a victim themselves.

If a 2nd Ebola Case in Dallas Concerns You, The CDC Solution Will Horrify You -

[Wondergirl]

Another nurse on that team said they were poorly prepared, didn't have shoe covers, etc. In today's Chicago paper, a guy in a haz-mat suit was washing the infected nurse's sidewalk while a uniformed (unprotected) policeman stood nearby.

Do we have a clue how to manage this disease?

[smoothy]

I don't believe anything the CDC has to say at this point. They just parrot what the White house press secretary has to say...which amounts to one lie after the next.... they changed everything on their websites etc to fit with the Democrat propaganda on this. They are NOW in conflict with the WHO which they used to be in agreement with.

This has everything to do with President Obala and his push to do everything for his home continent of Africa.

Funny how quick flights to Tel Aviv were shut down when a grenade made it to a mile of the Airport... yet they completely refuse to follow time honors protocols dealing with infectious diseases and prevent any travel from or to infected areas. Which is the best and first step to reduce risk of spreading it further.

[Catsmine]

To go back to something Clete said, the last time we were confronted by a virus that was only spread by bodily fluids, it took 30 years and FIFTEEN MILLION lives to fight it to a standstill. HIV goes into remission, AIDS is still fatal. This virus doesn't give us the time for a protracted debate and politically correct semi sorta quarantine. Grab your shotguns and call Milla Jovovich, Resident Evil IRL is scouting locations.

[paraclete]

Go for it cats

[smoothy]

The Director of the CDC should be fired... and be held criminally liable due to gross incompetence and for putting the American population at risk. To hide his gross incompetence has been blaming it on the nurse who is entitled to the assumption she did everything correctly absent any proof to the contrary.

The CDC Director Just Confirmed They Have No Clue: “We Have To Rethink The Way We Address Ebola Control� -

[J_9]

Nurses aren't provided the luxury of "the assumption she did everything correctly absent any proof to the contrary." We are held to a higher standard. There is a saying in nursing, we learn it on day one of nursing school, and continue to practice it throughout our careers. The saying is...

"If you didn't document it/chart it. You didn't do it." If the questions were asked and answered, but not properly documented, we didn't ask the question. If we started an IV, but didn't chart it. We didn't start the IV. Everything we do must be documented appropriately.

Now, I'm not sticking up for the Director of the CDC. I think he should be fired as well.

[J_9]

Did she ask him if he traveled out of the country in the last 30 days? I don't know, but if she didn't document it, she didn't ask him. Did he have a fever? I don't know. Did she document it? If not, she didn't take his temperature. Do you see my point?

[smoothy]

I see your point. If its not documented it didn't happen. And in the medical field...everything is documented.

If memory serves me right... they suspected he had this from the moment he went to the hospital , and if not immediately it wasn't long after, and it took a brief time before it was confirmed he did have it. I certainly don't trust the media to give us all the facts, or any of them for that matter.

[Catsmine]

J, Apparently somebody did ask all those questions, according to the records released by his family.

Ebola patient sent home from ER despite 103-degree fever

What it doesn't say was when Nurse Pham cared for him. CNN says it was on his second visit.

Edit: I realize this wasn't your point, but the response to your point is that the documentation was there already.