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    #61

    May 11, 2013, 07:35 AM
    Your link said 300, a fourth were Tparty, who were the rest? 150 have been investigated and approved for applied status. Who were they?

    Why is it that only you guys were victims(?). Why is it you think only republicans can investigate everybody else, and NOT be investigated?
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    May 11, 2013, 07:36 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    They weren't targeting George Soros and left wing organizations...they weren't targeting Hollywood....they weren't targeting Nancy Pelosi and John Kerry...or Barrak Obama....

    LOTS of money in those places. Lots of socialists there so those should be at the TOP of the list.
    Maybe you know of the other 3/4 of the groups being investigated are? Share the list please.
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    #63

    May 11, 2013, 07:39 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Maybe you know of the other 3/4 of the groups being investigated are? Share the list please.
    Unless you can prove they weren't other Conservative groups... we can assume they were based on their targeting Criteria used to oppress the conservatives... this is far from over... Obama was behind this... and should suffer the same fate because of it that Richard Nixon did.
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    May 11, 2013, 07:43 AM
    YOU can assume all you want. I rather have the facts before shooting off at the mouth.

    Got any FACTS?
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    May 11, 2013, 07:49 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    YOU can assume all you want. I rather have the facts before shooting off at the mouth.

    Got any FACTS?
    IRS admitted they were violating the constitutional rights of conservatives... they never admitted to violating the same rights of liberals.

    The only assumptions being made here are by you.

    Want facts... look at the admissions of th IRS... there are plenty of sources for that... none of which I can be accused of altering.
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    May 11, 2013, 08:11 AM
    That's a fallacy on your part because no such admission of civil rights violations exists by the IRS on this matter.

    Show me the links because the one provided has no such apology in it.
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    #67

    May 13, 2013, 04:52 AM
    Tal, I don't know what planet you've been on but my first post on this said who and how many were inappropriately targeted and gave the apology. You want more facts? This wasn't just low level flunkies, IRS leadership knew about it and lied to Congress. This administration just keeps finding ways to manipulate the election, issue false talking points and lie about it. 

    Senior IRS officials knew agents were targeting Tea Party groups: report  - NY Daily News

    When are you going to get your head out of the sand?
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    #68

    May 13, 2013, 05:00 AM
    Wait until the next Republican President decides to to tell the IRS to target Lefty groups and organizations for audits...

    I've sure they left will think that's just as fair and legitimate as what has been done here.
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    #69

    May 13, 2013, 05:40 AM
    What goes around comes around
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    May 13, 2013, 05:59 AM
    Hello smoothy and all you righty's:

    I've sure they left will think that's just as fair and legitimate as what has been done here.
    I hate to bust your balloon, but as a left winger, I'm OUTRAGED at the IRS. If it can be proven that Obama was involved, he should be impeached. If it was low level employees, then that's just so.

    The IG will investigate. I'll wait for his determination.

    Excon
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    May 13, 2013, 06:37 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello smoothy and all you righty's:

    I hate to bust your balloon, but as a left winger, I'm OUTRAGED at the IRS. If it can be proven that Obama was involved, he should be impeached. If it was low level employees, then that's just so.

    The IG will investigate. I'll wait for his determination.

    excon
    Lets hope the heads roll over this... because this is one of the things Nixon WAS impeached for... lets see how many democrats jump under the bus to save Obama from this same fate.

    Nobody has been fired yet... and its clear someone specifically gave the orders to do this. And its clearly Political in nature to punish anyone who has had any activity in speaking out angainst "The Kenyan Messiah"

    If you work in banking and take it upon yourself to even LOOK at someone's bank account you are not actively working with... you would get fired. There is no way they can be poking around randomly and it NOT being a fireable offence.
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    #72

    May 13, 2013, 06:43 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello smoothy and all you righty's:

    I hate to bust your balloon, but as a left winger, I'm OUTRAGED at the IRS. If it can be proven that Obama was involved, he should be impeached. If it was low level employees, then that's just so.

    The IG will investigate. I'll wait for his determination.

    excon
    Obama is engaged in a war on IGs so I don't expect anything there, Congress needs to do this. IG after IG has found problems with this administration and time and again the White House has fired, abused, silenced and otherwise intimidated them for doing their job, not to mention the fact that he tends to leave those posts vacant. I reported on another just last week that claims the admin is trying to silence him, because heaven knows Obama's image can't be tarnished.

    So are you really pi$$ed or just waiting for another IG to suffer abuse and hope it goes away while blaming those darn Republicans for another witch hunt?
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    #73

    May 13, 2013, 07:16 AM
    So shoot the messenger, typical political game
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    #74

    May 13, 2013, 07:44 AM
    Part 1 today of a rare event, I agree with Dennis Kucinich...

    Former Democratic Congressman and presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich slammed the unethical targeting of conservative Tea Party groups by the IRS on Fox News Sunday’s panel, unequivocally suggesting that this was political targeting at its worst.

    After dropping the disclaimer that he is a “liberal Democrat” and does not celebrate Tea Party politics, Kucinich firmly claimed politics has no place with the IRS:

    “We can not have a condition in America where peoples politics are the basis for IRS attacks.”

    Asked by Chris Wallace whether he buys the IRS claim that this was just an isolated bureaucratic offense by select IRS agents in Cincinnati, Kucinich said the buck stops at the top.

    “The tone is set from the top,”
    Kucinich said. “We are in a hyper-partisan, intensely partisan condition in Washington. The polarization is damaging to our country.”

    Wallace countered, asking if Kucinich thought the IRS’s missteps were straight up political targeting:

    “How can it not be?” Kucinich concluded.
    This admin is in deep doo doo and it's about time people are talking about the corrupt sham that is the Obama administration.
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    #75

    May 13, 2013, 09:17 AM
    By the way, on that IG report you're waiting for? It's already been leaked to the media and it's much worse than they let on last week. It's clear that the 'dishonest' apology as Issa called it, was an attempt to spin the report before it was released this week.

    Not only did they target Tea Party groups, the IRS has been "tracking groups who’s goals included, quote “limiting government” and “educating on the Constitution and Bill of Rights” and that, “criticize how the country is being run” since 2010, and senior IRS officials have known for at least 2 years as I mentioned in another post.

    Goodness knows we can't have anyone wanting limited government, teaching people about the constitution or *gasp* criticizing how the country is being run.

    So while you guys were busy accusing conservatives of racism for criticizing Obama's policies (and if you can't see why we're critical yet after the last few weeks I can't help you) , the IRS - OUR GOVERNMENT - was harassing Americans exercising their rights.

    This is CHILLING, an egregious betrayal of government trust.

    P.S. It appears the IRS also may have targeted Jews and pro-Israel groups.
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    May 13, 2013, 10:33 AM
    I ask again who were the rest of the IRS's targets for this investigation of there tax status?
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    #77

    May 13, 2013, 11:00 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I ask again who were the rest of the IRS's targets for this investigation of there tax status?
    Do you not think the IRS investigates others? The only thing that matters here is they specifically targeted and harassed conservatives, have been doing so since 2010 while senior IRS officials have known for at least two years AND lied about it to congress. That they investigate others in the course of business is a given, what matters is they targeted only those with a conservative bent. What are you missing here about how disturbing, corrupt and ILLEGAL this is?
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    May 13, 2013, 11:04 AM
    Show me where they ONLY targeted conservative groups?
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    May 13, 2013, 11:08 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Show me where they ONLY targeted conservative groups?
    I give up, I tried.
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    May 13, 2013, 11:25 AM
    Again this is captain obvious material . The IRS would not be specifically apologizing the right wing groups if they were being even handed.

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