[tomder55]

It doesn't have to be a small grocery store owner. It can be a major chain such as Wegman's or Shoprite or Dominick's. In Chicago, public land is being turned into neighborhood gardens, and police are being "undesked" and assigned to low-income neighborhoods so residents feel free to venture out..

So you'd welcome one big box store but not the other ? Why ? I could easily do all my grocery shopping in Walmart ,and still have healthy meals all week.. . and there'd be neighborhood jobs .

Here is NY there was a period when new Korean immigrants were opening grocery stores in the hood .They were considered "interlopers " by our local community agitators . Their children of course got sick of the whole gig and if they remained in business at all ;moved out of the communities. Oh yeah the big box groceries do open in NY (not necessarily in the hood ) ;but their pricing reflects the fact that rents are high ;Nanny Bloomy is likely to put new restrictions on you... or the many other challenges to make things work in this "blue" city .

[speechlesstx]

Did closing the WH tours also close the veggie garden?

[smoothy]

Did closing the WH tours also close the veggie garden?

I think Obama went out and stomped on all the broocholli and Cabage one night when he was having a tantrum...

And tried to blame it on Sarah Palin.

[talaniman]

then why are there so many obese middle income ? Your rhetoric flies in the face of the facts.
There is very little difference in obesity rates due to socio-economics .
Rich-Poor Gap Narrowing in Obesity

See a doctor for guidance to get started.

Difference in chosing not to, and can't afford to.

Every time we try to give them choices in schools your side throws a fit... usually some black leader obstructing choice for poor black kids. But you can't say that without it being racist or something.



Teaching them to cook is more useful and less ideological.

Since the entire neighborhood benefits from good schools, wouldn't that be a good place to rebuild a neighborhood? Moving the kids out does nothing for where they live.

But it does bring more money to those better choices, and not knocking that, just saying the problem is with those left behind. You mean there is room for all the urban kids to go to better schools? I don't know if the evidence even shows that's the case. If you have some, please show me.

There is no ideology of the scientific fact where babies come from, nor is there an argument against knowing how to use contraceptives properly would lower the need for abortions. Legal or otherwise. So teaching them to cook, and teaching them the facts about the birds, and bees, has nothing to do with ideology, and goes hand in hand with a quality education to benefit their futures.

The ideology you speak of is your notion that NO ONE should have sex until they get married OR have a civil union. That's great for Sunday School at YOUR church,or religious schools, but Public School? Not so much.

[talaniman]

They would be complaining about $6 tomatos and $12 a gallon milk then.....if the minimum wage went up.....they don't grasp the prices of everything will have to go up to pay for it....then we are back at square one again....

But they don't grasp that because so few of these people learned much in school.....other than how to roll a joint. and use saran wrap for a condom.

Wonder if everybody working for minimum wage would bring the prices down?

[speechlesstx]

Since the entire neighborhood benefits from good schools, wouldn't that be a good place to rebuild a neighborhood? Moving the kids out does nothing for where they live.

Keeping kids in failing schools does nothing for them either.

There is no ideology of the scientific fact where babies come from, nor is there an argument against knowing how to use contraceptives properly would lower the need for abortions. Legal or otherwise. So teaching them to cook, and teaching them the facts about the birds, and bees, has nothing to do with ideology, and goes hand in hand with a quality education to benefit their futures.

The ideology you speak of is your notion that NO ONE should have sex until they get married OR have a civil union. That's great for Sunday School at YOUR church,or religious schools, but Public School? Not so much.

Dude, parents should be the main provider of sex education, and if you believe there's no ideology in sex ed in public schools I'd like to offer you a deal on some nice property.

[paraclete]

Well Ex there is nothing else for it, close down macca's, close down KFC, close down Pizza Hut and of course all the look alikes, then close down all the manufacturers of JUNK and soft drinks. Coca Cola must be the first to go, quicly followed by its look alike Pepsi. I'm glad to have you on board in the campaign to shut down these multinational obesity purveyors

[speechlesstx]

Clear the way for Donut King to expand.

[talaniman]

Keeping kids in failing schools does nothing for them either.



Dude, parents should be the main provider of sex education, and if you believe there's no ideology in sex ed in public schools I'd like to offer you a deal on some nice property.

Wonder why they fail? Wonder why they can't be made to succeed?

Explain that ideology thing about sex education to me and how much is that property you have for me. I can't help it if you are SMARTER than me, and know more about educating kids about sex.

I mean how did you educate your own? What should a young guy or girl be told about sex that isn't about ideology?

[paraclete]

Clear the way for Donut King to expand.

Did I leave someone out, yes add Donut King and Crispy Crème to the list. I havlent got to the chocolate manufacturers, the coffee manufacturers and all those who are hiding loads of sugar in their wares. It is really sugar we have to eliminate

[speechlesstx]

Wonder why they fail? Wonder why they can't be made to succeed?

Maybe if your side would see them as children and not future Democrat voters.

Explain that ideology thing about sex education to me and how much is that property you have for me. I can't help it if you are SMARTER than me, and know more about educating kids about sex.

I mean how did you educate your own? What should a young guy or girl be told about sex that isn't about ideology?

If it's the parents doing the teaching that's up to them, but the school has no business springing things like anal and oral sex on 5th graders.

[Wondergirl]

If it's the parents doing the teaching that's up to them

Most parents (like mine, and probably yours) didn't teach sex ed at home. In fact, my parents figured the less I knew, the less trouble I would get into.

If parents and schools don't teach it, guess who does?

[speechlesstx]

The question is where do you draw the line at school? Or do you draw a line?

[Wondergirl]

The question is where do you draw the line at school? Or do you draw a line?

Where would you draw the line?

[talaniman]

Most parents (like mine, and probably yours) didn't teach sex ed at home. In fact, my parents figured the less I knew, the less trouble I would get into.

If parents and schools don't teach it, guess who does?

I doubt you can spring anal, and oral sex on most 5th grader, since chances are they have a friend that knows already. Why ask an adult when you can ask a friend?

Do they even tach sex ed in the 5th grade?

[smoothy]

Most parents (like mine, and probably yours) didn't teach sex ed at home. In fact, my parents figured the less I knew, the less trouble I would get into.

If parents and schools don't teach it, guess who does?

Looking at the teen pregnancy rates... and the posts on this forum... they are doing an even worse job teaching sex ed than they are math and reading.

[Wondergirl]

Looking at the teen pregnancy rates...and the posts on this forum...they are doing an even worse job teaching sex ed than they are math and reading.

And what kept us pure?

[smoothy]

And what kept us pure?

We actually got better educations then they are getting today... meaning we weren't dumb as stumps. And that let us have rational thought and actually make fewer huge mistakes...

I grew up in the boonies... we weren't what you would call pure.

When WE were in school... the curriculum wasn't vetted for political correctness and approved by the propaganda ministry. Today by the time that is... there is nothing left for learning.

[Wondergirl]

We actually got better educations then they are getting today....

I meant about sex ed.

I'm all for bring back Palmer Penmanship, Phonics, and memorizing of times tables, poetry, and certain Bible verses/Psalms. Education was even better in my day than in yours. After I graduated from high school, they broke the education mold

[speechlesstx]

I doubt you can spring anal, and oral sex on most 5th grader, since chances are they have a friend that knows already. Why ask an adult when you can ask a friend?

Do they even tach sex ed in the 5th grade?

Boy do they...

“One of the other parents said it well – they raped the minds of the ten year old, eleven year old kids,” he told Fox News Radio. “Children were traumatized.”

The Pannkuk and Gilliland families said they knew something was wrong when the daughters came home from school. They were quiet and withdrawn.

“You could tell she was embarrassed,” Jean Pannkuk told Fox News Radio. “She didn’t want to have to repeat what had been said. It was really sad to see her struggle with feeling like she was responsible.”