[tomder55]

That garbage about Republic obstruction is totally debunked by Bob Woodward in his new book.

Clete I agree.
QEIII is an outrageous and irresponsible action taken by the Fed ;and a tacit admission that the Keynesian pump priming theories of the Obots has been a complete failure.

[talaniman]

That garbage about Republic obstruction is totally debunked by Bob Woodward in his new book.

No it wasn't. Have you read the book?

[tomder55]

“Obama said his plan would include tax cuts, but not only tax cuts. He seemed inclined to compromise. 'Mr. President,' Cantor offered, 'I understand that we have a difference in philosophy on tax policy.' But a massive stimulus package would be too much like 'old Washington,' he said. 'I can go it alone,' the president said, 'but I want to come together. Look at the polls. The polls are pretty good for me right now.' Cantor chuckled and nodded. The polls certainly looked good for Obama now. To Cantor, that meant there would be no easier time to compromise and to disappoint some on the left. As he listened, Obama's tone seemed to change. 'Elections have consequences,' the president said. 'And Eric, I won.' On the table, some copies of the one-page document called 'House Republican Economic Recovery Plan' lay where Cantor had put them. 'So on that, I think I trump you,' Obama said.” (Bob Woodward, The Price Of Politics, p. 14)

“The House vote was 244-188. All 177 Republicans had voted against it. 'Not even one?' Emanuel said to Cantor. 'What's going no?' 'You really could've gotten some of our support,' Cantor said. 'You just refused to listen to what we were saying.' Cantor might have admired Obama's self-assuredness-the confidence, the smooth articulation and eloquence-but the president had taken it too far, to the point of 'arrogance,' he said. Obama had demonstrated that he believed he didn't need any other input. The Republicans were outsiders, outcasts.The president and the Democratic majorities in the House and Senate would go it alone. There was no compromise.” (Bob Woodward, The Price Of Politicpp. 21-22)
“'It's a bipartisan bill,” the President insisted, listing elements he assumed Cantor's caucus would support. 'Republicans like business expensing. They like bonus depreciation.' Cantor resented Obama's presumption that he knew what Republicans wanted, and what their priorities were, without consulting them.” (Bob Woodward, The Price Of Politics, p. 17)
“Ryan's presence at the George Washington University speech fundamentally changed the public and media perception of what the White House had hoped would be a major budget moment. Instead of reshaping the debate, the speech widened the partisan divide. The contrast between the cool bipartisan talk at the White House in the morning and the attack on the Republicans was stark. Ryan felt betrayed. He'd expected an olive branch. What he got was the finger.” (Bob Woodward, The Price Of Politics, p. 106)
“Back at the Capitol, Ryan took a call from Alan Simpson. 'I'm going to throw up in the tulips,' Simpson said. The president's words and demeanor, he said, were way over the line. Then Erskine Bowles called. 'I was disgusted,' the longtime Democrat said. 'I couldn't believe that he did that. And I'm going to talk to the president about it.' He said he was apologizing. 'It's not your fault,' Ryan replied. 'You don't need to apologize for anything.'” (Bob Woodward, The Price Of Politics, p. 106)
“The $800 billion stimulus bill of new spending and additional tax cuts, introduced on January 26, was the first bill of the new Congress and the Obama administration. It was called, appropriately, H.R. 1, and it contained not one proposal from Eric Cantor and his conservative Republican group. The bill was drafted by the Democrats and whenever any Republicans tried to make changes, Emanuel's response was, more often than not, 'We have the votes. F— 'em.' This was the bulldozing that Obama had promised to avoid.” (Bob Woodward, The Price Of Politics, p. 16)

[talaniman]

From what I read Tom the stick is after all that negotiating, and the repubs got what they proposed, they voted against it any way. So how is the republicans hurt feelings spin a debunction of the republican obstructionism?

Seems they were going to vote NO, no matter what to me. As my proof I offer their proposal,

House Republican Economic Recovery Plan - GOP.gov

And the final one that was passed,

American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Or did they vote no to holler about its failure? Like they have on everything that's gone through the congress.

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, Steve:

I've been hearing that bunk from your side for years... It's time to put an end to it... You APPEAR to say that since Obama CONTROLLED the government, he could have done ANYTHING he pleased. But, because things are still broken, it's obviously his fault.

Your assertion is just not true. Here's what Republican Tom Coburn says about it.

Now you know.

excon

So what's being held, and where's that Senate budget we haven't seen since 2009?

[speechlesstx]

No it wasn't. Have you read the book?

I posted on this already, too.