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    Jul 5, 2012, 05:47 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by RaiHarmon21 View Post
    My licensing is done through a program that is done through a duel enrollment in high school

    So you are licensed through a duel (which means two people fighting each other, I assume you mean dual) program at 16, under the legal age?

    What State?
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    Jul 5, 2012, 06:04 PM
    I'd like to know what medical center or practice could or would hire a minor... what with Malpractice laws being what they are... not to mention insurance companies looking at every charge with a magnifying glass.
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    Jul 5, 2012, 06:10 PM
    There ARE dual enrollment courses that teens can take. I happen to know a few myself. The person(s) taking the dual enrollment fall under the insurance of the trainer/facility they are training under.
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    Jul 5, 2012, 06:11 PM
    I haven't read the entire thread, I got bored at page 3. A bit shocked that this thread has continued for 7 pages.

    To answer the OP's original question, and having seen that his loss is $350, I'll stick to the simple answer.

    Anyone can sue. If you want to sue for you school books, and you can prove that they were damaged by your step parents, then go to small claims court and hope that you win. That's really all you can do.

    As for the rest, I wish you good luck, you'll need it, and I hope you succeed.
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    Jul 5, 2012, 06:12 PM
    Rai, I would like to say that I, for one, do believe your story. While there are some holes that needed to be filled, I believe you are indeed trying to better yourself coming out of a bad situation.

    I have to say I am so sorry that some of my colleagues treated you in the way in which they did. Some of those posts even embarrassed me as they were in no way the professional advice we try to give here.
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    Jul 5, 2012, 06:14 PM
    The simple answer Rai, is yes you can sue these people, however it will most likely have to be done in small claims court.
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    Jul 5, 2012, 06:14 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    Rai, I would like to say that I, for one, do believe your story. While there are some holes that needed to be filled, I believe you are indeed trying to better yourself coming out of a bad situation.

    I have to say I am so sorry that some of my colleagues treated you in the way in which they did. Some of those posts even embarrassed me as they were in no way the professional advice we try to give here.
    Now I'm thinking I may have to get past page 3. What did I miss? ;)
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    Jul 5, 2012, 06:15 PM
    Thank you J_9 and Alty your advice was helpful
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    Jul 5, 2012, 06:18 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    There ARE dual enrollment courses that teens can take. I happen to know a few myself. The person(s) taking the dual enrollment fall under the insurance of the trainer/facility they are training under.
    I understand dual enrollment courses. I also know the qualifications for being a massage therapist - and that includes wc and professional liability coverage. A massage therapist "trainee" is hands on. She's not wandering around, handing out wet towels. I also haven't found out which State - which could end this one way or the other.

    I'm sorry we are in disagreement here but I do not believe her.
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    Jul 5, 2012, 06:24 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    A massage therapist "trainee" is hands on. She's not wandering around, handing out wet towels.
    As is a nursing "trainee." I've been there done that. I had to work under a licensed nurse to perform procedures such as starting IVs, foley catheters, etc. I didn't wander around just doing bed baths.
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    Jul 5, 2012, 06:25 PM
    You didn't answer what state this is. But at this point I'm still inclined to believe you.

    But as alty said, you can file in small claims court. If you can prove that a) they destroyed the texts and b) you loaned the money, you may win. But then you will have to collect which may not be easy. Also, getting yourself emancipated may backfire a bit in that it makes you responsible for the texts. Right now your guardians are.
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    Jul 5, 2012, 06:30 PM
    Here's a nicely knitted cloth of my situation. I am 16 my adoptive parents (bro in law and sister) are separated and do not take care of me. My mother is deceased and my dad doesn't matter. I live in a home with a former teacher and a his wife, I am a housekeeper for them to pay for my shelter, food and basic utilities. I receive social security benefits which come to a lump sum that covers clothing phone bills and all other necessities. I am in a duel enrollment with my high school and a technical school in the massage therapy program. I have several text books destroyed and money borrowed and never returned. Is there anything I can do about this situation?

    There you go simply put
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    Jul 5, 2012, 06:30 PM
    In grad school for counseling, we first counseled other students in our program (and were overseen by our profs) and then later counseled volunteer undergrads in various psych classes. No charge and no payment. Then we moved to internships in the community, and were overseen by supervisors with at least a master's degree. Again, there was no payment to us, and the agency we interned for received sliding-scale payment from the clients who agreed on paper to be counseled by grad students. No licensing (or payment, not even tips) was possible until we had successfully completed the program and graduated.
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    Jul 5, 2012, 06:37 PM
    Rai, the only thing I am questioning is getting paid for the internship. Most internships are not paid positions.
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    #75

    Jul 5, 2012, 06:37 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottGem View Post
    You didn't answer what state this is.
    Arizona
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    #76

    Jul 5, 2012, 06:48 PM
    Whoops missed it. Ok here's AZ's law: Arisona Passes Emancipation Statute For Minors

    Someone has been giving the OP good advice. There are 3 requirements that Op has to follow. The 3rd doesn't appear possible, the 2nd, while possible, may be hard to convince a court. But the 1st shows the good advice. Instead of living with the teacher she's the teacher's livein housekeeper. So instead of living with someone, this establishes her as living on her own. Brilliant! So I can see a judge granting emancipation here.

    But I'm also bothered by the paid intern thing. Interns are almost legal slaves. They work for peanuts to gain experience.
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    #77

    Jul 5, 2012, 06:53 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by RaiHarmon21 View Post
    Here's a nicely knitted cloth of my situation. I am 16 my adoptive parents (bro in law and sister) are separated and do not take care of me. My mother is deceased and my dad doesn't matter. I live in a home with a former teacher and a his wife, I am a housekeeper for them to pay for my shelter, food and basic utilities. I receive social security benefits which come to a lump sum that covers clothing phone bills and all other necessities. I am in a duel enrollment with my high school and a technical school in the massage therapy program. I have several text books destroyed and money borrowed and never returned. Is there anything i can do about this situation?

    There you go simply put
    Simply put, small claims court is your only option. But, like Scott said, and I'm by no means a legal expert, being emancipated can play a role in this. If you are emancipated, you're responsible for your own books, and the cost if they were destroyed.

    Any money owed to you, you'd have to prove. Can you prove it? Do you have statements, an IOU, a contract, stating that they borrowed that money and were going to pay you back?

    Sometimes life's lessons aren't easy. Sometimes you pay the price.

    If you have a case, and can prove your case, then it may be worth your time to go to small claims and state your case. But, even if you win, collecting won't be easy. Winning doesn't mean that you're automatically paid.

    It all depends on how much you're willing to put into this, how much you're willing to lose, because even if you win, that money may never go into your pocket.

    Sad but true.

    This is a judgement call, and as an emancipated minor, it's your judgement call. How much time and effort are you willing to put towards this, knowing that even if you win, you may never be made whole financially?
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    Jul 5, 2012, 06:53 PM
    And maybe not even for peanuts, especially if the person/salon she interns for isn't approved by the school or under their umbrella. Depends on the school's requirements for interning and their definition of it.
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    Jul 5, 2012, 07:03 PM
    Hey guys, I hire interns, I get college students to work 10 or 20 hours a week at either no pay at all, or for costs ( perhaps 10 dollars a day)

    With that said, they get training in something like book keeping, or marketing or experience working toward a fitness certification.

    But yes, it may be a issue of terms, but in general, if they are really looking for an intern, there will not be pay, or just gas and parking money
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    Jul 5, 2012, 07:24 PM
    I took an animal health care class during high school. It was called an ROP class (not sure what that stands for) but it sounds like it may be the same as a 'dual enrollment' type program. We weren't paid, or employed or interned, but we DID preform actual functions of vet techs. Such as giving lambs their vit B shots. (under the supervision of our teacher)

    I believe the OP too. Its very easy to get years of information all garbled up and confused in one post.

    OP I wish you luck, and hope that you are able to get to where you need to be.

    May I ask the reason why you have taken the route of emancipation from your sister and brother in law? Were they cruel to you? Or is it just because of the damage to your school property?

    And, though off topic, I would really like to know if you are a boy or girl. Lol. I see lots of people saying her. And then lots of people saying him.

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