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Jul 24, 2008, 09:31 AM
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It is no use trying to convince Cred that other countries are worse than America on some things. He said years ago that America was the worst offender of polluting this planet and I posted stuff saying some places in China were and he insisted I was wrong that America wasn't the worst offender.
Linfen, China: This city of more than four million is in the heart of Shanxi, China's coal-production hub, and has frequently been deemed the most polluted city in the world; citizens suffer from choking clouds of coal dust as well as drinking water polluted with arsenic. But Linfen is not the only city in the country with environmental woes—the World Bank estimates that 16 of the world's 20 most polluted cities are found in China's industrial areas.
Runners up:
Haina, Dominican Republic;
Ranipet, India;
Mailuu-Suu, Kyrgyzstan;
And Rudnaya Pristan, Russia
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Jul 24, 2008, 09:47 AM
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 Originally Posted by N0help4u
It is no use trying to convince Cred that other countries are worse than America on some things.
I know Sapphire, why let facts get in the way of some good ol' anti-American outrage?
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Gone, But Not Forgotten
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Jul 24, 2008, 10:04 AM
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 Originally Posted by N0help4u
It is no use trying to convince Cred that other countries are worse than America on some things. He said years ago that America was the worst offender of polluting this planet and I posted stuff saying some places in China were and he insisted I was wrong that America wasn't the worst offender.
Linfen, China: This city of more than four million is in the heart of Shanxi, China's coal-production hub, and has frequently been deemed the most polluted city in the world; citizens suffer from choking clouds of coal dust as well as drinking water polluted with arsenic. But Linfen is not the only city in the country with environmental woes—the World Bank estimates that 16 of the world's 20 most polluted cities are found in China's industrial areas.
Runners up:
Haina, Dominican Republic;
Ranipet, India;
Mailuu-Suu, Kyrgyzstan;
and Rudnaya Pristan, Russia
I know, honey, but I just had to let my American half in me put it's 2-cents worth in because I'm sick and tired of hearing frustrated individuals using the US as a scapegoat for their problems.
No country is perfect, but most realize that there is room for improvement and some continue to brainwash.

That's what lets people like Hitler emerge throughout history. It's sad.
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Jul 24, 2008, 10:04 AM
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 Originally Posted by Chery
I know, honey, but I just had to let my American half in me put it's 2-cents worth in because I'm sick and tired of hearing frustrated individuals using the US as a scapegoat for their problems.
No country is perfect, but most realize that there is room for improvement and some continue to brainwash.

Exactly
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Jul 24, 2008, 10:15 AM
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I'm sick and tired of hearing frustrated individuals using the US as a scapegoat for their problems.
Your about to hear 100,000 Germans do that while BO makes his campaign speech with a backdrop that Hitler was particularly fond of using .
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Jul 24, 2008, 10:34 AM
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Seems to be what I see liberals doing when they yell fascist conservative.
I never see that backed up with anything.
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Jul 24, 2008, 10:40 AM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
Your about to hear 100,000 Germans do that while BO makes his campaign speech with a backdrop that Hitler was particularly fond of using .
Yeah and the McCain camp caught Obama speaking out of both sides of his mouth yesterday on an issue we've both raised concerning the hypocrisy on the left:
Obama today at Yad Vashem:
“Let our children come here and know this history so they can add their voices to proclaim ‘never again.’ And may we remember those who perished, not only as victims but also as individuals who hoped and loved and dreamed like us and who have become symbols of the human spirit.”
Obama on July 20, 2007:
Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama said Thursday the United States cannot use its military to solve humanitarian problems and that preventing a potential genocide in Iraq isn’t a good enough reason to keep U.S. forces there.
“Well, look, if that’s the criteria by which we are making decisions on the deployment of U.S. forces, then by that argument you would have 300,000 troops in the Congo right now — where millions have been slaughtered as a consequence of ethnic strife — which we haven’t done,” Obama said in an interview with The Associated Press.
Obama says we can't use the military for humanitarian intervention, tells the Israelis "never again" and then jets off to speak from one of Hitler's favorite backdrops, has the gall to quote the mayor of Berlin on persevering toward freedom in telling the world to "do your duty," but cannot force himself to admit the surge is working and commit to sticking around Iraq long enough to ensure "never again" for the Iraqi people?
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Gone, But Not Forgotten
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Jul 24, 2008, 10:40 AM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
Your about to hear 100,000 Germans do that while BO makes his campaign speech with a backdrop that Hitler was particularily fond of using .
Good thing I have this site, movies and cable TV and can choose not to watch this historic event. I have not listened to the news either concerning B.O's visit or upcoming speech. And, when the germans around me start talking about the subject, I'm out of there! That's my way of avoiding the ignorance that will only frustrate me - just because I'm too old and physically weak to bother dishing out some of my emotions. Besides, they'd only be wasted on those who would not have lived so prosperous the last 50 years without the US's support.
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Jul 24, 2008, 10:41 AM
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 Originally Posted by N0help4u
seems to be what I see liberals doing when they yell fascist conservative.
Where did you get THAT from?
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Jul 24, 2008, 10:53 AM
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Besides, they'd only be wasted on those who would not have lived so prosperous the last 50 years without the US's support.
Right on! I have frequently said that without the American defense umbrella ,Europe could never've afforded the nanny-state they concocted .
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Jul 24, 2008, 10:55 AM
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Jul 24, 2008, 10:55 AM
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NK
In the last day I was accused on the other site of being fascist . That has been a frequent charge levelled against the right .
I think words like "Bush*tler " have become part of the vernacular.
{stupid editing function on site would not let me add the "i" to the word.}
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Jul 24, 2008, 11:24 AM
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Guys, you're all over the place. It's not about fascism and it's an old Usenet meme that's directed at the workings of a discussion board. Did you not even read it?
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Jul 24, 2008, 11:29 AM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Where did you get THAT from?
Choux says it all the time and Look at the Bush*itler links speech just posted.
The tactics are the same from the left only different terms
Whether you use socialist, fascist or whatever it is all the same name game and the left seems best at playing it.
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Jul 24, 2008, 11:34 AM
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Also see speechlesstx #72 this page links...
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Jul 24, 2008, 12:00 PM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Guys, you're all over the place. It's not about fascism and it's an old Usenet meme that's directed at the workings of a discussion board. Did you not even read it?
You're right it, isn't about fascism. It's about double standards... which is what we were addressing.
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Jul 24, 2008, 12:10 PM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
You're right it, isn't about fascism. It's about double standards ... which is what we were addressing.
What double-standards?? Did you read the link? It's only about the workings of threads in a discussion board, it doesn't even mention liberal or conservative!
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Jul 24, 2008, 12:13 PM
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It is a double standard simply because each side is using the same tactics and pointing fingers. So over all it is double standard on each sides part.
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