[inthebox]

silentrascal:

I think you are doctrinally correct.

Some will say the "sick" will seek a cure only when they realize they are sick and could get worse.

The problem with sin is that people either deny it or worse approve or condone it, and they never realize they are sick in need of a cure, so to speak.

Now, my conflict is that when they are convicted of their sin and seek a cure / salvation, will they remember a loving God as represented by the "church, " because we should stand out and be known for our Love, or will they run from God because the "church" as they see it is does not have the spirit of love?

But in 1 cor 13, love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.

I can see both points on this thread.





Grace and Peace

[breyegrl]

Stick by your friend- everyone on this post can claim that the Bible says this or that and it can always be twisted to cater to someone's point of view. The bottom line, inherently as a human being you know what's right and you know what's wrong. To ostracize a person based on their sexual orientation is wrong. I am not saying that you should not believe in the word of the Bible but it has been re-written, re-worded, and some scripture has been left out. For someone to claim that they can cheat on their wife or a priest can molest a child and they can be forgiven but someone who is gay is just so horrible that you should not even speak to them is crazy. People can memorize the Bible, become a self proclaimed expert but until they are able to follow all of the Commandments and the so called "dos and donts" that the Bible teaches then they should concentrate on helping themselves instead of judging everyone else.

[silentrascal]

I am so glad I am not part of an institution that turns their backs on anyone who is not like them. Thank you for reminding me.

And I'm so glad I'm not part of the group with no morals and an "anything is acceptable" kind of mentality.

[NeedKarma]

And I'm so glad I'm not part of the group with no morals and an "anything is acceptable" kind of mentality.

What makes you think I have no morals? The golden rule is a good way to live one's life don't you think?

[RustyFairmount]

If I remember that story correctly, weren't the pharisees trying to trick Jesus, asking him which commandment was most important? Weren't they trying to trip him up on little printed details written down in sacred scripture. It occurs to me that people who quote scripture as readily as sports statistics in order to shun people from their congregation are not unlike the pharisees.

It's a trick. You can obey the out-of-context quotes, abandon your friend, and let him die a sinner. Or you can follow the example that Jesus set for us, and try to help lead him to salvation.

You don't need a quote in the bible to demonstrate outstanding morals.

Good luck. I'm leaving this conversation because the narrow mindedness and personal attacks are just too frustrating. Pitiful.