[paraclete]

doesn't seem to have changed you

[jlisenbe]

Strange. I'd say the same about you. Hopefully we are both wrong.

[paraclete]

I have not been preaching change

[jlisenbe]

Pity.

[tomder55]

This from a Math teacher at an Ivy League school who is an immigrant ;escaped
from a former communist dictatorship . He says ...... 'Though a registered independent, I find myself almost always opposed to the Democratic candidate. I am opposed to many of the things Democrats push for: big-government programs, heavy regulations, higher taxes, weak foreign policy with an over-reliance on ineffective and often corrupt international institutions and, worst of all, raw identity politics.'

Trump may be a highly flawed human being, but unlike many other politicians, he is at least readily transparent. Trump's awfulness is "in your face," while the awfulness of a typical politician is hidden behind a carefully crafted façade and a veil of "credible deniability."

https://www.newsweek.com/why-i-will-...pinion-1543803

[talaniman]

But in the end, the election is a choice between two radically different visions of the future. Despite all his braggadocio and boorish behavior, Trump's policies have been quite conventional Republican ones, albeit with a significant veer toward protectionism more recently typical of pro-labor Democrats. There is also an obvious return to nationalism. But nationalism, as long as it relies on democratic institutions and a healthy civil society, is not all bad. As long as a benign, positive nationalism puts citizenship, and no other restricted form of identity, at its core, it can actually help heal the awful divisions in the country.

The dufus just ain't the one to heal the awful divisions in the country. He exploits them for his own gain, aided and abetted by sycophants and brown nosers who gave up on the idea of negotiation and compromise, and repeat his hollering and perpetration of the ISM's. That's hardly a reliance on democratic institutions, or a HEALTHY civil society.

Time for the people to make a choice alright.

[tomder55]

Rally for Trump in Nigeria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPBPUXI5Dd4

Bikers in Jerusalem rally for Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM-g...ature=youtu.be

[Athos]

Rally for Trump in Nigeria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPBPUXI5Dd4

Bikers in Jerusalem rally for Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM-g...ature=youtu.be

With any luck, Trump will leave the USA permanently to served his constituents in Nigeria and Jerusalem. Hasta La Vista, MF.

[jlisenbe]

Hasta La Vista, MF.

Yep. No hatred on this board.

[talaniman]

It's not really hatred, it's total bewilderment that mostly intelligent good god fearing people could follow a lying cheating dufus bully. You can't blame anyone for not getting that attraction.

The vote count continues as the dufus says it shouldn't.

[tomder55]

He should shut up As of now he is leading . No one is 'following ' anyone . He is President and all that matters to me is performance .

[talaniman]

That's part of the stress Tom, the dufus overperforms with his big mouth. You just can't relax around this unpredictable dude. He can't relax and shut up, when everybody is afraid and worried about the bills, sickness, and death.

[tomder55]

Did you note that all the states with Republican governors got their votes counted? The states that can't seem to get them counted and want days to do it all have Democrat governors. Coincidence?

[talaniman]

Dem governors with repub state legislatures? That's very notable.

[tomder55]

sorry PA extended count was by ex order by Governor Wolf . If it was by the legislature would be no reason to challenge. As I already pointed out . SCOTUS should've heard the Republican challenge BEFORE the election. Now the Presidency is going to be decided by who has the better lawyers

[talaniman]

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/why-pennsy...232406582.html

Looks like the counties have decided how they will proceed, but we'll see what happens.

[tomder55]

Arizona still in play . Rural votes being counted and Trump is closing .

[Wondergirl]

Military ballots?

[tomder55]

no they claimed 98% counted . In fact there was still 14% more to count ,mostly from rural areas . That being said . IF he does lose it then a hat tip goes to Cindy McCain and it will serve the President right

[talaniman]

Arizona still in play . Rural votes being counted and Trump is closing .

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...?ocid=msedgntp