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    Feb 1, 2020, 08:18 AM
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    Feb 1, 2020, 08:23 AM
    That is hilarious!
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    Feb 1, 2020, 08:27 AM
    Tomder: Who care what the Demos will think! They will be powerless: The Demos will lose the HOUSE! Then the Repubs can start investigating the sh&$t out of them....they like to try and torture, they will find torture goes both ways.
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    Feb 1, 2020, 08:32 AM
    Trump is chipping away at their historic ownership of the black vote.
    Polls this week have him at getting 30% of Black support . Supposedly 20% support for a Republican would be suffient to keep a Dem candidate from winning EVER

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/can-tru...rt-11579133622
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    Feb 1, 2020, 11:20 AM
    The Democrats real turn to the left was set about by Obama when he surrounded himself with all the ideologically driven radicals in his first term. These people attracted young and stupid/heads full of mush/heads full of sh$t (that's what they were and, many, still are) and those sh$t-for-brains types grew beards and public hairs and thought they were modern day versions of Marx, Lenin, and Castro. Now, those same Bolshevik types have infested the Demo Party: The Demo Party is highly radicalized now, effectively sealing them off from electability in national elections. These Demo radical elements appear stronger than they are because they concentrate their numbers in urban areas hoping to proselytize other ignorant souls.

    I don't want the Demos to "GO FULL RETARD" because we don't need more monopoly in Government than we already do...we need some balance.....hell, WE NEED A THIRD PARTY! But that may be wishful thinking on my part!
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    Feb 1, 2020, 11:27 AM
    Darn if my subscription to WSJ just expired because I would sure like to know how he doubled or triples his black voter support just by claiming how much he has done for them.



    Quote Originally Posted by Vacuum7 View Post
    The Democrats real turn to the left was set about by Obama when he surrounded himself with all the ideologically driven radicals in his first term. These people attracted young and stupid/heads full of mush/heads full of sh$t (that's what they were and, many, still are) and those sh$t-for-brains types grew beards and public hairs and thought they were modern day versions of Marx, Lenin, and Castro. Now, those same Bolshevik types have infested the Demo Party: The Demo Party is highly radicalized now, effectively sealing them off from electability in national elections. These Demo radical elements appear strong than they are because they concentrate their numbers in urban areas hoping to proselytize other ignorant souls.

    I don't want the Demos to "GO FULL RETARD" because we don't need more monopoly in Government than we already do...we need some balance.....hell, WE NEED A THIRD PARTY! But that may be wishful thinking on my part!
    Extreme right wing wishful thinking and musings? That's okay, can't knock you for that or Moscow Mitch and the dufusites shutting down a trial really quick with no witnesses or documents since obviously there are plenty of both, but of course the dufus can't let everybody see any of it. It ruins the lies he tells.
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    Feb 1, 2020, 11:44 AM
    Talaniman: You know I ain't no WINGER!!! I am just saying what I have seen.....and, I could say the same kind of thing about Repubs but they just have gotten as far Right as the Demos have gone far left....but, they might get there yet...and, when they do, I will call them out, too.

    YOU SEE WHY WE NEED A THIRD PARTY?!!! It becomes ever more obvious.
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    Feb 1, 2020, 05:24 PM
    Whether or not the right is as extreme as you say dems are is very debatable Vac, because where I sit they are far gone or it seems many are and drive the narrative more than I have ever seen and the dufus keeps them loud and upfront with plenty of red meat served on a platter of hate and division, driven by fears he stokes so absolutely and often. You been hollering third party for a while many have over the years, but obviously not a lot of support, or a person to rally around, and it's not coming out of thin air for sure. It's a daunting task, and helps play right into the dufus hands while he corrupts the once respected repubs into utter sycophancy.



    It use to be support was built on the trust to do the right thing by the people, not fear and distortion and extortion. That's okay, his sycophants protect him still but a few more court cases and investigations are still active and pending even if to late for this election cycle...MAYBE.
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    Feb 1, 2020, 05:28 PM
    I would sure like to know how he doubled or triples his black voter support just by claiming how much he has done for them.
    You mean like having the lowest black unemployment in history?
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    Feb 1, 2020, 05:55 PM
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    You mean like having the lowest black unemployment in history?
    Unemployment is low for everybody in MOST areas of the country, but to say blacks should be grateful or any minority, for that matter, is more insult than statement of fact. Pretty disingenuous on many levels to even imply it was done just for them when most everybody knows it wasn't. Not only has the trend been moving down on unemployment, again for many but not all, it's been doing that longer than the dufus has been around. That's why it's an insult to many to point out and take credit for delivering something to one group that the whole group is getting anyway.

    Of course you have no clue of that which I speak so go ahead and enjoy your 20% support from the black community. If it materializes. 75% of AMERICANS wanted witnesses and documents but repubs said NO, because the dufus said NO! No problem, the truth will eventually make it to the light from the darkness in which he hides stuff in.
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    Feb 1, 2020, 06:52 PM
    As the Italians say: "Lies have the shortest legs," so, if lies have been strewn, they will be revealed, eventually. As my Grandmother used to say: "Three things cannot be hidden...1) the sun, 2) the moon, and 3) the truth......If Trump has lied, or if the Repubs have lied, or if the Demos have lied, the truth will be found out....these things have a way of working themselves out.
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    Feb 1, 2020, 07:32 PM
    Unemployment is low for everybody in MOST areas of the country, but to say blacks should be grateful or any minority, for that matter, is more insult than statement of fact. Pretty disingenuous on many levels to even imply it was done just for them when most everybody knows it wasn't.
    First of all, I never said blacks should be grateful. That was your invention. As for the rest of your post , you and I both know that if Obama had accomplished this, you would be shouting his praises to the highest heavens. It is only your hatred of Trump that keeps you from the simplest acknowledgement that Trump has done well with the economy, and people of all colors have profited. Thankfully, the country has individuals, including black people, all over that are learning to break free from the domination of the democrat party and think for themselves.
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    Feb 2, 2020, 06:09 AM
    E. Warren is now going about saying she will have a 9 year old transgender child do the vetting for her sec of education.The craziness is getting extreme. It seems that every election is getting more and more critical. Trump has his problems, but he recently became the one and only president to address the March for Life audience, and I'm pretty sure he does not seek the advice of 9 year old transgender children. How would a 9 year old be given the authority to determine his/her own gender anyway?
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    Feb 2, 2020, 06:23 AM
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    Feb 2, 2020, 07:04 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    First of all, I never said blacks should be grateful. That was your invention. As for the rest of your post , you and I both know that if Obama had accomplished this, you would be shouting his praises to the highest heavens. It is only your hatred of Trump that keeps you from the simplest acknowledgement that Trump has done well with the economy, and people of all colors have profited. Thankfully, the country has individuals, including black people, all over that are learning to break free from the domination of the democrat party and think for themselves.
    Listen up! I was here before the dufus and can attest that Obama's economy laid the foundation and started the upward trend of more people being employed and with a chance at education into better jobs and opportunities. Has nothing to do with the dufus, but it's rather disgusting and tone deaf to think he and he alone deserves ALL the credit for continuing to build on that solid foundation.

    Listen up some more! It's not for YOU or the dufus to tout what's been done for black people or anyone else but yourself, as they will be the ones to speak for themselves in this matter! Don't be surprised if they want that hate spewing, liar, and cheat out of office, along with his repub sycophants. What? You think because he inherited a health growing economy we should overlook all his BS and anoint him a savior as you have? That would be rather silly for anyone at this point. You would be better served by listening to those black voices instead of insulting us further fueled by your own hate of democrats and liberals.

    Recognize that as we speak, you are not the same repubs that put nation first before party and had the nations confidence to do the right thing. No you are the party of the lying, cheating dufus trying to deceive and distract while he robs us blind. You and the rest of your ilk have traded a chance at his pocket change to shill for him. He deserves no credit for peeing on your head and convincing you its raining.

    Listen UP! There is a very good reason minorities vote with the dems and a simple look will inform you of that FACT! Dems look like US, repubs DON'T!
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    Feb 2, 2020, 07:20 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    E. Warren is now going about saying she will have a 9 year old transgender child do the vetting for her sec of education.The craziness is getting extreme. It seems that every election is getting more and more critical. Trump has his problems, but he recently became the one and only president to address the March for Life audience, and I'm pretty sure he does not seek the advice of 9 year old transgender children. How would a 9 year old be given the authority to determine his/her own gender anyway?
    I like your rhetorical exaggeration, but the dufus feeding you red meat during this election doesn't cover up the FACT he has never addressed the March of Life before when there were no votes to curry.



    Aren't you glad you weren't around when he was bankrupting his casinos?
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    Feb 2, 2020, 08:06 AM
    Listen up! I was here before the dufus and can attest that Obama's economy laid the foundation and started the upward trend of more people being employed and with a chance at education into better jobs and opportunities. Has nothing to do with the dufus, but it's rather disgusting and tone deaf to think he and he alone deserves ALL the credit for continuing to build on that solid foundation.
    Why do you continue to just make it up as you go along? I am more than willing to give Obama some credit for his economy, though I will point out that it was, historically speaking, a weak recovery from recession and was accompanied by a doubling of the national debt. That is simply the truth. But when you say, "Has nothing to do with the dufus," you put your Trump hatred on full display. It is really a pathetic show to have to watch.

    It's not for YOU or the dufus to tout what's been done for black people or anyone else but yourself, as they will be the ones to speak for themselves in this matter!
    What a crazy statement. It course we can tout what Trump has done for black people, or Latinos, or whites, or Asians, or anyone else. It's all on the table, and for you to think that you somehow have the power to restrict what can be talked about is an extreme level of arrogance. It's just your stage 5 TDS manifesting itself.
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    Feb 2, 2020, 09:18 AM
    Its unfortunate that ONLY Blacks have "LEADERS"...I don't see Indian LEADERS, Asian LEADERS, or Hispanic LEADERS....WHY IS IT THAT BLACKS ARE CONSIDERED A "BLOCK" OF VOTERS? I find this demeaning for Blacks. It connotes an inability of Blackst to "think for themselves" and that is, in and of itself, a racist thought. It was Lyndon B. Johnson who came up with the idea of giving the "Black Community "things" would lead to OWNING their "voting block" forever: THAT STRATEGY BY JOHNSON WAS A RACIST TACTIC! In effect, Negroes got their freedom from Slavery in 1865 at the conclusion of the Civil War only to surrender themselves back to Slavery on the Democrat's Liberal Plantation in the 1960's.....SAD!!!
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    Feb 2, 2020, 10:16 AM
    JL my friend, get your head out of the dufus's arse and think for yourself, and maybe, just maybe, you can process the experiences of others and at least gain empathy through insights. My prayers for you continue. Please forgive my rather hardheaded, stubborn resistance, to your false idol worshipping anti human support for the lying cheating foul mouthed dufus.

    No it's not a disease that sparks that resistance though, nor is it hate, but a profound responsibility to follow the path that my relationship with a God that I understand has pointed me to. You can make what you want of it, that's up to you, but I have to be true to it no matter what anyone says. The dufus's words are loud and mean, his actions louder and meaner. That means I will not allow you to dismiss whatever you disagree with as an illness. I think you already know that.

    @Vac

    All the groups you mentioned have leaders within their own communities just as EVERY other community in America. That's not racist, nor is compromising to court their votes. Repubs made the decision to scare white folks for votes with that southern strategy stuff and still use that and voter suppression tactics to get and keep political power.

    I respectfully submit rather than saying dems control blacks think of what the repubs offer that turns off blacks. It's a voluntary choice that makes dems more attractive to black interests, and the chance to control and direct the narrative that works for them. Repubs no longer offer that opportunity, nor even give minorities the position to direct and control their own narrative. As it stands repubs are the party of white people telling everybody else what to think with the dufus as it's leader.

    It's not lost that repubs denigrate those women and people of color that their communities elected, or that repubs make them such targets. What's lost by YOU is how insulting that is that you feel it's okay to say blacks women and minorities are under dem control when it's the dems who are under the control of blacks women and minorities.
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    Feb 2, 2020, 12:49 PM
    JL my friend, get your head out of the dufus's arse and think for yourself, and maybe, just maybe, you can process the experiences of others and at least gain empathy through insights. My prayers for you continue. Please forgive my rather hardheaded, stubborn resistance, to your false idol worshipping anti human support for the lying cheating foul mouthed dufus.
    What a rant. No facts, just offensive garbage.

    No it's not a disease that sparks that resistance though, nor is it hate, but a profound responsibility to follow the path that my relationship with a God that I understand has pointed me to. You can make what you want of it, that's up to you, but I have to be true to it no matter what anyone says. The dufus's words are loud and mean, his actions louder and meaner. That means I will not allow you to dismiss whatever you disagree with as an illness. I think you already know that.
    Does this god you have a relationship with require you to be honest? If so, then would you be honest about the fact that the economy, under Trump, is setting records? Would you be honest about Benghazi? You say that Trumps words and actions are loud and mean. I would agree with you and that's a valid criticism, but are you prepared to be honest and admit that HC's words and actions are frequently mean, and that the same is true of other democrats such as Maxine Waters (who is about as looney as you can get), or be willing to say that EW's latest idea to use a 9 year old trans child to vet the sec of education is about as crazy an idea as a person can imagine? Is this "profound responsibility" you have only pointed at Trump, or does it apply to everyone?

    I don't belittle what you are saying, but it just seems very strange to me that you seem to have a call to bash Trump but let liberal dems do as they please. This "profound responsibility" seemed to let you make no appeal for justice and the rule of law for Judge Kavanaugh when he was nearly derailed by what any reasonable person would agree was a weak case being made against him, and it seemed to have no impact on your view of HC when she was clearly and plainly guilty of having classified government information on a unsecured, personal server, and then proceeded to attempt to destroy half of the evidence on the hard drive. So I just don't exactly know what your "profound responsibility" is.

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