[tomder55]

There's a difference between what I wish and what will happen. I don't see Roe being overturned . If it was going to happen ,it would've in the Bush years.

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

Bush didn't have a majority on the Supreme Court.. Romney will.. Boy, I thought you understood how that worked.

excon

[tomder55]

Yes he did.. he had a 5-4 conservative court throughout including 2 of his appointees and Scalia and Roberts .

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

That's nice on paper.. But, in the REAL world, Kennedy is a swing voter and you had no such majority. If Ginsburg retires, and Romney is elected, you righty's will have a 6-3 majority, and you'll wreak havoc with it..

excon

[speechlesstx]

Under Obama Kennedy is a swing vote but under Romney he's a conservative?

[NeedKarma]

That's your belief, why do I have to believe as you do?

You don't believe in biological reproduction? I guess your wife could remain chaste and pray for a baby, let me know how that turns out for you.

[speechlesstx]

I don't believe "natural reproduction" happened by chance, and I'll leave that other part for Jesus' mother.

[NeedKarma]

When was the last documented occurrence of virgin birth?

[speedball1]

I don't believe "natural reproduction" happened by chance, and I'll leave that other part for Jesus' mother.

Your largest problem Speechless, is that your arguments are bases on belief and it's a fact that belief is not and can never be knowledge.
You also have the wrong conception of Planned Parenthood and Women's Clinics. You seem to think that all we do is abortions and that's entirely wrong. Pregnancy tests. Check and treatment for STD's and consulting are only a few, And where would you send a pregnant girl for help? A crisis pregnancy center? Lotta help there! Tom

[speechlesstx]

Your largest problem Speechless, is that your arguments are bases on belief and it's a fact that belief is not and can never be knowledge.
You also have the wrong conception of Planned Parenthood and Women's Clinics. You seem to think that all we do is abortions and that's entirely wrong. Pregnancy tests. Check and treatment for STD's and consulting are only a few, And where would you send a pregnant girl for help? A crisis pregnancy center? Lotta help there! Tom
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Try getting out of your bubble once in a while.

[speechlesstx]

How Romney has empowered women

Editor's note: Jane Edmonds served as a member of Gov. Mitt Romney's cabinet and as head of the Department of Workforce Development in Massachusetts. She also was an appointee of Gov. Michael S. Dukakis and served as chair of the Massachusetts Commission Against Discrimination (MCAD), the civil rights law enforcement agency for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. She is a surrogate for Mitt Romney's presidential campaign.

(CNN) -- "Baby, law isn't a good profession for girls," my father told me.

"Stay with music, dear, that is what you and your people do so well," my high school dean said.

I was 16, and asking them the most important question of my life: Will you tell me how to become a lawyer?

My dad was a product of the segregated South. Orphaned at the age of 12, he pulled himself up by his bootstraps. After leaving Georgia for Washington, where he lived with a relative, he attended an integrated school, Dunbar High. Eventually, he earned his way into Syracuse University, where he was one of the first black men to graduate. In spite of his achievements, he and our family faced discrimination. Nevertheless, he kept his sense of humor, and worked hard to be a good provider.

My father's message was loving and protective. He didn't want to see me hurt.

My dean's message was scornful and discriminatory. She took a sledgehammer to my dreams, and when I left her office that day, I was crushed and fighting tears. I couldn't understand her answer.

I wanted to go to a good college, attend a respected law school and advocate for people needing help and craving justice. I refused to abandon these high hopes.

And I didn't. I followed my dreams and went to law school. More than 40 years later, I became one of the 10 women named to top policy-making posts in the early months of Gov. Mitt Romney's administration in Massachusetts. There, I headed up the Department of Workforce Development. During Gov. Romney's tenure, our state led the nation in terms of the ratio of women holding top spots in the administration, and to this day, that's something about which I am incredibly proud to have been a part of.

And so, as I've heard criticism about Gov. Romney's admirable record of recruiting women to serve in his administration, I feel compelled to speak out about the Mitt Romney I know.

I remember meeting him for the first time. I was struck by his authenticity, and over the years that I worked with him, I saw the accuracy of my first impression. Gov. Romney's overriding commitment was not to self-promotion -- as is so often the case for politicians -- but for the people he served, and the people he served with. He believes in empowering women. I would know, because I was one of those women he recruited and respected.

Today, there are more than 5 million women around this country -- mothers, daughters, breadwinners -- who are unemployed. They are not only robbed of their dignity and their self-respect; they are also robbed of the results of decades of hard work. More women are in poverty -- 25.7 million -- than at any time in our nation's history.

And for too many young people, the doors of opportunity remain closed shut by these tough economic circumstances. Half of recent college graduates are either jobless or underemployed. The cost of college has continued to rise in the last four years and student loan debt stands at record levels.

When Mitt Romney was governor, he worked with a legislature that was 87% Democratic to get things done. And to me, that really meant something: I consider myself a liberal Democrat. For him, it wasn't about who you were, it was about the quality of your ideas. That's how he improved the economy and balanced the budget, but that's not all he accomplished. Gov. Romney also initiated the John and Abigail Adams Scholarship to cover the cost of college at public institutions of higher education in the state for deserving high school students based on academic merit.

During his time as governor, Massachusetts maintained its schools' ranking as first in the nation.

Opportunity. Empowerment. That's what Mitt Romney has stood for while in politics and in business, and that's what matters to women. In government, he created opportunities for young people to attend college. In business, he took a chance on people to allow their dreams to flourish into realities.

I've been able to rise in life because of people who see the world this way. Looking back, I'm grateful to those who believe that education is a civil right and that the dreams of all should be encouraged and cultivated. And that's precisely why I'm supporting Mitt Romney.

Contrast that to the current president who doesn't like people and pays women less than men.

"It's stunning that he's in politics, because he really doesn't like people. My analogy is that it's like becoming Bill Gates without liking computers.”

I'll take a genuine guy that believes in people and actually does empower women over a divisive poser like Obama any day.

[NeedKarma]

That was the worse piece of BS I have seen LOL

Also Jane Edmonds served as a member of Gov. Mitt Romney's cabinet.

I like how you take one person's opinion and if you agree with it you apply it to a whole group of people or try to pass it off as another person's policy.

The hate is so strong in you it takes over everything you write.

[Wondergirl]

I know if I work for Romney, he will make sure I have time to be at home to make dinner for my family. And do the laundry. And clean house. And bathe the kids and put them to bed. After all, he respects us "little women."

[speechlesstx]

That was the worse piece of BS I have seen LOL

Also Jane Edmonds served as a member of Gov. Mitt Romney's cabinet.

Um, that's part of the point. Duh.

I like how you take one person's opinion and if you agree with it you apply it to a whole group of people or try to pass it off as another person's policy.

I like how you immediately discredit a black, female "liberal Democrat" that was also appointed to a position by a liberal Democrat named Michael Dukakis and demean her experience working for a white Republican. I mean surely no black, female liberal Democrat can be genuine if she supports a Republican, right? How pathetic. Do your legs get tired from all that knee-jerking?

The hate is so strong in you it takes over everything you write.

Coming from you I'll take that as a compliment.

I know if I work for Romney, he will make sure I have time to be at home to make dinner for my family. And do the laundry. And clean house. And bathe the kids and put them to bed. After all, he respects us "little women."

Well you know, some women like being moms and wives. Some women like to go home and cook dinner. Some women like to go home and spend time with their family. Some women find it endearing that Romney was flexible so women in his employ could balance work and life at home with less pressure.

And some women just call such women are whiners that should "man up."

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says in a new interview that she can’t stand “whining” by women who are unhappy with the work and family choices they’ve made in life and complain that they have no options.

Clinton, in the interview with Marie Claire, was discussing Anne-Marie Slaughter, a former director of policy planning at the State Department who left in 2011. This summer, Slaughter wrote a much-discussed cover story in the Atlantic — “Why Women Still Can’t Have It all” — about leaving her job because of the difficulty of balancing her work at State with the needs of her two teenage boys.

“I can’t stand whining,” Clinton told Marie Claire. “I can’t stand the kind of paralysis that some people fall into because they’re not happy with the choices they’ve made. You live in a time when there are endless choices. … Money certainly helps, and having that kind of financial privilege goes a long way, but you don’t even have to have money for it. But you have to work on yourself. … Do something!”

Read more: Hillary Clinton trashes whiners - Kevin Robillard - POLITICO.com

Now I understand even more why that former Obama official called his admin a "hostile workplace" for women.

[NeedKarma]

American politics are pathetic aren't they? Not one good person in the whole bunch.

[speechlesstx]

American politics are pathetic aren't they? Not one good person in the whole bunch.

Well that answers my question about Edmonds.

[paraclete]

I know this thread has largely been about abortion but perhaps its time to broaden it
Despite the Arab revolt, women remain shackled to past
Recently a journalist was attacked in Cairo, the idea is that this happened because she is a woman and this may well be so, but there are wider issues here and you cannot look beyond the Muslim world when looking for a war on women.

We have no evidence that a male journalist would not be attacked by the mob just by being there but the fact that there was a female journalist with camera crew has some serious cultural issues surrounding it. Here is a female who in the eyes of the mob was in the company of men not of her own family and in an area where such attacks occur often.

So it comes down to the question, why do we persist with these outmoded cultural societies who on the one hand sign on to UN conventions but do nothing. These mobs are one reason a prosperous society is now in serious economic trouble. Should we defend the freedom of such people to trash a society, cover up the momuments of centuries and stand in judgement of our society and its cultural norms of allowing women to go where they will

[speechlesstx]

Clete, asked that question many times. The typical response is we just need to respect their culture and mind our own business. In fact, I believe it was you who said something to that effect.

[NeedKarma]

The post you referred from Clete has him saying that the US should stay out of other people's business.

There are religious wackos everywhere sadly. Do you want the French meddling with the US religious wackos?

[paraclete]

Clete, asked that question many times. The typical response is we just need to respect their culture and mind our own business. In fact, I believe it was you who said something to that effect.

Indeed speech, but since it is obviously not your intention to do so, Romney made that fairly clear. I can respect their culture as long as they respect mine, however the record of america particularly in recent times has been to impose its culture on various places particularly in the. Middle east. Now the state that this incident took place in was, until recently, a more liberally minded place, however your administration fawns over an administration that would permitt this sort of behaviour, something about freedom from a dictator america supported. You will forgive my confusion I just don't know what side you are on