[talaniman]

Not saying that, but covering up mistakes or bad actions by cops ain't the way to go, and entirely inappropriate and unacceptable.

[jlisenbe]

White people aren't the issue, nor black on black crime,

White people aren't the issue? You haven't been paying attention if you believe that. As for black on black crime, it is just swept under the rug by you and others because it certainly seems that you just don't care. If I had a choice between concentrating on twenty deaths a year or several thousand deaths a year, it would seem plainly obvious that I should go with the much bigger situation since there is far more potential for good there. But there is no political gain to be had there, and no opportunity to blame problems on white people, so it's just ignored.

Now if you like JL agree they should

Completely foolish statement. Untrue and you know it.

[talaniman]

Now I get it. When cops do wrong that's okay with you. Why didn't you just say that?

Love your half quotes you like to jump on.

[jlisenbe]

Now I get it. When cops do wrong that's okay with you. Why didn't you just say that?

As is oftentimes the case, you don't get it. I'm all for dealing with rogue cops. Perhaps I'll just become like you and not give a horse's rear end about thousands of black people being murdered every year. Only the fake political narrative counts. A white man engaged in a violent crime is more likely to be killed by a cop than a black man engaged in a violent crime, but don't let truth and facts get in your way. I guess that sometimes it's nice to be willfully blind.

[talaniman]

More lip service? What are you going to do about those rogue cop? You have a solution for everything but have you even suggested a solution to rogue cops killing citizens? Heck you were okay with shooting a guy in the back, so what should I think about that?

[jlisenbe]

Prosecute them.

When have I been OK with shooting a guy in the back? Answer, of course, is NEVER. Do I think the cop is guilty of felony murder? No. Do I think he's guilty of something? I would think so, but unlike you, I'm willing to let the investigation play out first.

Remember the Bubba Wallace incident?

[talaniman]

Prosecute them.

How when they cover it up and bury it for months?

When have I been OK with shooting a guy in the back? Answer, of course, is NEVER. Do I think the cop is guilty of felony murder? No. Do I think he's guilty of something? I would think so, but unlike you, I'm willing to let the investigation play out first.

https://apnews.com/fb33a7eb824b47c492f01130c73878eb

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/...leeing-suspect

The looked at the tapes, interviewed witnesses, and charged the cop in the Wendy's case. Most other cases get swept under the rug and buried.

Remember the Bubba Wallace incident?

What about it?

[jlisenbe]

How when they cover it up and bury it for months?

It's called investigations. How do you feel about the fact that nearly half of murder cases where a black person was the victim are never solved?

What about it?

There was a supposed noose found in his Talladega garage. There was the usual uproar about it by people too stupid to wait for an investigation. The investigation by the FBI revealed a loop tied at the end of a rope used to close a garage door that had been there more than a year. So it turned out to be garbage.

That's why I frequently say we need to wait for the investigation. Refer to the Michael Brown case in Ferguson.

[talaniman]

It's called investigations. How do you feel about the fact that nearly half of murder cases where a black person was the victim are never solved?

That's not just a black thing you make it out to be, though the number may be high for black people, their are a high number of unsolved murders in America period, but is that relevant to the specific topic of COPS killing black people and getting away with it?

There was a supposed noose found in his Talladega garage. There was the usual uproar about it by people too stupid to wait for an investigation. The investigation by the FBI revealed a loop tied at the end of a rope used to close a garage door that had been there more than a year. So it turned out to be garbage.

What does it look like to you?

That's why I frequently say we need to wait for the investigation. Refer to the Michael Brown case in Ferguson.

Investigate yes, but over the years and decades few black people trust the police. Maybe you don't have that experience, but just the stories of older, respected black people telling their stories and experiences, should at least give you pause. I guess these threads is an example of why an HONEST discussion is DIFFICULT.

[jlisenbe]

It looks like a loop about large enough to put your hand in to close the door.

According to the New York Post, no fewer than 15 federal agents were summoned to investigate the incident. The noose they discovered was a small loop tied to the bottom of a rope on a garage door at the Talladega Superspeedway. It was presumably to make it much easier to raise and lower the door and it had been there since last October. After two days of incendiary hysteria, NASCAR boss, Steve Phelps admitted there was no hate crime.
The FBI said that although the noose is now known to have been in garage No. 4 in 2019, no one could know that Wallace would be assigned to that number during the previous week.

https://www.ibtimes.com/fbi-ruling-b...r-fans-3000688

[talaniman]

Looks like it could easily be a noose, and they can be loosened and tightened.

[jlisenbe]

I guess you'll have to go talk with the 15 federal agents who disagree with you.

[tomder55]

Trump letter to Illinois Governor Pritzker and Chi-town Mayor Lightfoot:

I will continue to lead the way to support historically disadvantaged communities and would welcome your help in these endeavors. In December 2018, I signed into law the First Step Act, marking the first major reforms to our criminal justice system in over a decade. This brings historic reforms to make our justice system fairer and to help inmates successfully transition back into society by providing prisoners with a second chance through rehabilitative programs and fair sentencing. Additionally, when I signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017, we created Opportunity Zones. Nationwide, nearly 9,000 communities have designated Opportunity Zones, including over 130 in Chicago, which are incentivizing investments in areas that have been forgotten for far too long. My Administration has also provided robust, unprecedented support to Historically Black Colleges and Universities.
Recently, on June 16, I signed an Executive Order advancing important reforms to elevate a noble profession and strengthen the essential bond of trust between police officers and the communities in which they serve. My Administration continues to work closely with Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina and others across the political spectrum to advance further policy improvements and meaningful reforms.
Unlike previous Administrations of both parties, I am willing to tackle unsolved challenges. If you are willing to put partisanship aside, we can revitalize distressed neighborhoods in Chicago, together. But to succeed, you must establish law and order. The combination of crime, high State and local taxes, and onerous State and local government regulations have caused thousands of Illinoisans to flee to other States. Between 2010 and 2019, Illinois lost more of its population than any other state in the Nation. If you are interested, I am willing to ask members of my Cabinet to meet with you and help devise a plan to make Chicago safe, since a successful formula has escaped both you and your predecessors. My Administration would also welcome the opportunity to engage with you and your colleagues as you develop bipartisan policy recommendations to improve policing and make our great cities safer for all.
Unfortunately, you continue to put your own political interests ahead of the lives, safety, and fortunes of your own citizens. The people of Chicago deserve better.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trumps-letter-governor-illinois-mayor-chicago/?fbclid=IwAR0Qe7qRHJp5NSJhhJiX5ElO2XgWzXDC9YVSPBB1 obR0eWqvzWPEeaU028Y

[talaniman]

I guess you'll have to go talk with the 15 federal agents who disagree with you.

The FBI said it wasn't an intentional hate crime aimed at Wallace. Nobody disputes it is a noose except you it appears.

[talaniman]

Trump letter to Illinois Governor Pritzker and Chi-town Mayor Lightfoot:


https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trumps-letter-governor-illinois-mayor-chicago/?fbclid=IwAR0Qe7qRHJp5NSJhhJiX5ElO2XgWzXDC9YVSPBB1 obR0eWqvzWPEeaU028Y[/URL]

Quite the diplomat that dufus.

[tomder55]

more like showing leadership to the Munchkins in charge of the state and city

[Athos]

more like showing leadership to the Munchkins in charge of the state and city

Unfortunately, you continue to put your own political interests ahead of the lives, safety, and fortunes of your own citizens. The people of Chicago deserve better.

That's leadership? Reads more like a threat.

[talaniman]

I doubt you will solve the problems of Chicago gangs with a snarky letter or an armed militia force. Certainly there is little confidence in the guy who makes more noise than comprehensive solutions. I mean who has any confidence in a career grifter and exploiter and con man, or any of his minions. Attacking the dems is as effective a strategy for collaboration and cooperation as the Chinese had with the Mongols.

His letter amounts to a political stunt to promote his tough guy persona but I'm sure that nothing gets done before the election.

[jlisenbe]

The FBI said it wasn't an intentional hate crime aimed at Wallace.

Then end of story.

Nobody disputes it is a noose except you it appears.

Yeah. Me and the millions of others who have enough sense to see that it's a loop tied in the end of a rope to use as a hand hold. "NASCAR's statement about the incident adds a lot more color, noting that the noose was actually a garage door pull rope that was fashioned in a loop. "

https://www.cbssports.com/nascar/new...-noose-in-his/

[talaniman]

You started this nonsense so you end it. Whatever it was used for, it's still a hangman's knot and you can bet everybody else knows that, but you. You want to keep giving evidence to your lack of common sense, have at it.