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    #661

    Oct 12, 2013, 05:24 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, tom:
    You have NEVER listened to me.. IF Obama IS a crook, I WANT him in JAIL. I have NO problem with the congress going AFTER him. But, I'm NOT interested in the chase. I'm interested when they CATCH him.

    Until then, YAWWWN.

    excon
    None of you libs were interested in the chase for that criminal Bush, or Cheney, or Rumsfeld, or that evil Gonzales guy who dared fire some attorneys. Bwa ha ha!
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    #662

    Oct 12, 2013, 06:25 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Who is Sarah Hall Ingram ? Hint the smoking gun moves closer to the White House.
    White House, IRS exchanged confidential taxpayer info | The Daily Caller

    Ingram headed the scandal-ridden IRS office responsible for overseeing tax-exempt nonprofit groups before leaving to head the agency’s office in charge of Obamacare implementation
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    Oct 12, 2013, 12:24 PM
    Tal yeah ;she headed the office that was targeting conservative and religious groups . She also visited the WH over 150 times in that period ,and exchanged emails with the WH that contained confidential taxpayer information. She was then rewarded with healthy bonuses and a promotion to head what will be the most intrusive and abusive division the IRS will ever construct.
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    #664

    Oct 13, 2013, 03:02 PM
    Just 51,000 people completed Obamacare applications during its first week, according to MailOnline, The target for the 6 month open enrollment period is 7 million for the program to be financially feasible. At this rate, they will come up 5 million short.
    Administration sources: Obamacare website received just 51,000 completed insurance applications | Mail Online
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    #665

    Oct 13, 2013, 09:13 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Just 51,000 people completed Obamacare applications during its first week, according to MailOnline, The target for the 6 month open enrollment period is 7 million for the program to be financially feasible. At this rate, they will come up 5 million short.
    Administration sources: Obamacare website received just 51,000 completed insurance applications | Mail Online
    Getting short of material Tom you reported this in another thread, how does it relate to the IRS scandal
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    #666

    Oct 14, 2013, 01:34 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    getting short of material Tom you reported this in another thread, how does it relate to the IRS scandal
    The IRS are in control of part of Obamacare. They are the ones that will be giving out fines (oops I mean taxes) and monitoring the healthcare people receive.
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    #667

    Mar 1, 2014, 06:40 AM
    Not that anyone cares...

    Kimberley Strassel: All the President's IRS Agents - WSJ.com
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    #668

    Mar 1, 2014, 06:55 AM
    Hello Steve:
    Not that anyone cares...
    I care. If my president is a crook, I want him IMPEACHED.. But, I'm not worried. The founders of this great nation of ours, in order to keep a check on the executive, gave congress oversight, and they weren't kidding. Apparently, you're trying to convince me they WERE kidding..

    So, since YOU say the president is acting ILLEGALLY, and the Republican lead House Judiciary Committee does NOTHING about it, I'm left with the thought that there's NOTHING to do anything about. So, they run their mouths instead...

    Particularly, if Issa BELIEVED that Lois Lerner can reveal the SMOKING GUN that Obama IS targeting his political enemy's, all he has to do is give her immunity... Then she'd be COMPELLED to tell what she knows..

    WHY doesn't Issa do that? Why does he flap his gums instead? Why do you?

    excon
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    #669

    Mar 1, 2014, 07:14 AM
    Obviously you agent curious as to what she's hiding or that the IRS is still being used to silence the regime's enemies.
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    Mar 1, 2014, 07:35 AM
    LOL, Speech, that's quit the joke, silencing the NOISE on the right! NOBODY can stop you guys from hollering! NOBODY! You guys sure don't let the facts stop you!
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    #671

    Mar 1, 2014, 07:37 AM
    Hello again, Steve:
    Obviously you agent curious as to what she's hiding or that the IRS is still being used to silence the regime's enemies.
    That's exactly the WRONG conclusion about what I said...

    So, lemme try again... IF my president is a CROOK, I want him impeached. You THINK that I'm being facetious. Apparently, you think I'm FINE when a Democrat violates the law, but I'd only go after a Republican... Uhhh, uh, uh... After ALL these years, you STILL don't know what I'm about... But, that's NOT who I am. Lemme say this one more time.. If my president is a crook, I want him impeached..

    But, I don't THINK he is a crook, because the COPS on the BEAT (Daryl Issa) are giving him a pass. That tells me ONE thing. That there's NOTHING to bust him over...

    Apparently, YOU think it means something else... Oh, I've heard it before... Issa can't do anything because HOLDER won't appoint a special prosecutor... BS! Issa can't do anything because he doesn't know what she's going to say. (???) BS!!! Issa can't do anything because the Democrat controlled senate won't follow suit... BS! Issa can't do it because the Republicans don't want Joe Biden... BS! It's ALL pure BS!

    So, let's go back to the top.. I DO want to know what Lois Lerner knows. To think I don't, is tantamount to accusing me of treason... Other than HATING my country, WHY wouldn't I want to know if my president is a crook???

    Well, let me tell you again. As a tax paying American, I WANT TO KNOW IF MY PRESIDENT IS A CROOK... The PERSON who is in charge of the committee, who IS my protection against crooked presidents, does NOTHING. That would be NOTHING... Why aren't you yelling at HIM??? He's the one who doesn't want to know what Lois Lerner knows....

    Over to you, winger.

    excon
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    #672

    Mar 1, 2014, 09:20 AM
    Treason? That's quite a stretch. Too partisan to be bothered by this, probably so. But if as this column said the IRS is holding conservative groups - or any other - hostage to "deals" outside the purview of the law that limits their rights unlike other groups, and I have no doubt they are, that should bother you as an American. It is a rogue agency and Dems won't be in power forever.
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    #673

    Mar 1, 2014, 12:00 PM
    as far as I'm concerned ,Lerner should've been charged with contempt when she started to make a statement ,effectively waiving her 5th Amendment protection ,before she plead the 5th .If it were me ,I'd haul her back in ;pepper her with questions while she repeatedly pleas the 5th ,before finding her in contempt of Congress. Btw ,that's exactly what is going to happen. Then what will happen ? A criminal contempt charge requires the cooperation of the Justice Dept ....no ? Yes it does. So to say BS because we claim Holder has to do his job is BS itself. Did the Justice Dept persue charges of contempt against Holder ? No . Anyway ;the next best thing would be a civil contempt case. And that would happen in a court system where Harry Reid pulled the nuclear option so the emperor could get his judges appointed (especially Justice Patricia Millett to the DC circus) .
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    #674

    Mar 2, 2014, 08:23 AM
    Looks like Lerner wants to avoid contempt charges.

    Issa: Former IRS official Lerner will testify - POLITICO.com
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    #675

    Mar 2, 2014, 08:56 AM
    Hello again,

    Then I PROMISE you - absolutely PROMISE that she won't divulge any smoking gun. But, will that STOP you from flapping your gums? Nahhh.

    excon

    PS> By the way, it's NOT contempt charges she's avoiding. I know that because your crack investigator, Daryl Issa DIDN'T file any.
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    #676

    Mar 2, 2014, 09:53 AM
    Hey , I'm just reporting what I heard on the news, that part of it is to avoid contempt of Congress charges. Let the testimony begin.
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    #677

    Mar 2, 2014, 11:36 AM
    Issa said that Contempt charges are on the table if Lerner doesn't cooperate. GOP revives focus on Lois Lerner - Rachael Bade and John Bresnahan - POLITICO.com If she doesn't reveal a smoking gun that's because she's falling on her sword.
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    #678

    Mar 2, 2014, 11:55 AM
    Give her immunity and get your smoking gun. You aren't saying she gets in big trouble if she doesn't make one up are you?
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    #679

    Mar 2, 2014, 12:18 PM
    Why give her immunity ? She MAY be the biggest fish ... I doubt it ;but it is possible. The point is that she directed the operation in the IRS .Why let her off the hook ?
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    #680

    Mar 3, 2014, 06:47 AM
    Hello again, tom:
    Why give her immunity ? She MAY be the biggest fish
    She may NOT be either. I thought you were after bigger fish. If SHE'S the biggest fish you can get, that means there's NO scandal. NONE. ZIPPO. NARY A ONE...

    Oh, there's bad bureaucrats. But, who's surprised at that?

    excon

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