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speechlesstx · Jul 11, 2013, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Actually it's part of my job to make sure links go where they are supposed to, every day at work. I don't tell you how to sell security items do I?

Apparently you need help finding simple, appropriately located stuff on a website. They're all there:

talaniman · Jul 11, 2013, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by smoothy

Trayvon wasn't in his own neighborhood... Zimmerman was. Not even the prosecution was trying to claim he was.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin

The Retreat at Twin Lakes is a 260-unit gated townhome community in Sanford, Florida.[84][85] The population in the development at the time of the shooting, was about 49% non-Hispanic white, 23% Hispanic(of any race), 20% black, and 5% Asian, according to Census figures.[72] Both George Zimmerman and Tracy Martin's fiancee were renting homes in the development when the shooting occurred.[45] At the time of the shooting, Martin had been staying with his father's fiancee at The Retreat.[86]

The neighborhood watch captain didn't know his neighbor, and apparently what street he was on.

smoothy · Jul 11, 2013, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by talaniman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin

The neighborhood watch captain didn't know his neighbor, and apparently what street he was on.

YOu are aware wikipedia is highly inaccurate.

Trayvon lived in the progects... this all happened to be in a GATED community where Zimmerman actually lived... one where Trayvon had no business casing houses in at night... And I'm not surprised he didn't lknow the names of EVERY street... I've owned my house for 17 years and I couldn't tell you the names of every street in a 3 minute walk from my front door.

NeedKarma · Jul 11, 2013, 09:25 AM

They're all there:

Thanks. I totally missed, my apologies.

But it looks like they are going as peacemakers which is their stated mandate. What's wrong with that?

talaniman · Jul 11, 2013, 09:31 AM

You're a card Smoothy, and I guess you have a credible link to he was casing the place while staying with his FATHER.

tomder55 · Jul 11, 2013, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

You wouldn't acknowledge an Obama admin scandal if it bit you on the a$$, but I digress.

So I ask you, after all of the agitators making this about a "white Hispanic" killing a "black teen" do you expect a riot if Zimmerman is convicted?

Ahhh Zimmerman's just a crazy a$$ cracker . Now the prosecutor wants to convince the jury that while he was on his back on the ground being pummelled and having his brains beat in ;that he was committing child abuse.

tomder55 · Jul 11, 2013, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Thanks. I totally missed, my apologies.

But it looks like they are going as peacemakers which is their stated mandate. What's wrong with that?

Is providing " support for protest deployment " peace keeping ? Sort of like the New Black Panthers providing crowd control assistance at Philadelphia election locations.

smoothy · Jul 11, 2013, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by talaniman

Your a card Smoothy, and I guess you have a credible link to he was casing the place while staying with his FATHER.

Don't need one... his body was found in a gatted community where he did NOT live... where the very definition of GATED means one doesn't simply casually wander through it... or it wouldn't be gated...

tomder55 · Jul 11, 2013, 09:41 AM

I used to take walks around the retirement community my mom lived in. I can assure you that the neighborhood watch was very active and alert .

NeedKarma · Jul 11, 2013, 09:49 AM

" support for protest deployment " peace keeping ?

I don't know - what did they do?

excon · Jul 11, 2013, 10:01 AM

Hello tom:

is providing " support for protest deployment "

Hello again, tom:

The problem I have, is with your belief that long term civil service employees would throw their careers into the dumper, in order to engage in political conduct... I don't believe IRS employees would do that, and I don't believe Justice Department employees would do that...

I would have the SAME position if it was the left accusing civil service workers of doing dirty work for Republicans...

Excon

smoothy · Jul 11, 2013, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello tom:
Hello again, tom:

The problem I have, is with your belief that long term civil service employees would throw their careers into the dumper, in order to engage in political conduct... I don't believe IRS employees would do that, and I don't believe Justice Department employees would do that...

I would have the SAME position if it was the left accusing civil service workers of doing dirty work for Republicans...

excon

The IRS people got caught doing it... red handed... and no doubt Justice Dept people aren't above it either... look at how they arbitrarily decide what laws they are going to ignore after all.

Just because they managed to get a job with the government doesn't mean they are above doing impropper and even illegal things.

Look at how many cops end up in jail every year... I know Washington DC isn't the only place that's had over 90 put in jail in less than the last decade.

Its just become quite common under THIS administration.

Fast and Furious were Erik Holder was arming the Mexican Drug cartels is well known.. and he's still running on the loose.

I'm sure if either of us sold even ONE gun to a drug dealer... we'd be in a Cell right now.

tomder55 · Jul 11, 2013, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello tom:
Hello again, tom:

The problem I have, is with your belief that long term civil service employees would throw their careers into the dumper, in order to engage in political conduct... I don't believe IRS employees would do that, and I don't believe Justice Department employees would do that...

I would have the SAME position if it was the left accusing civil service workers of doing dirty work for Republicans...

excon

Do you think it is the civil service employee acting on their own ? Nahh ,their political bosses are calling the shot. If Eric Holder sent them down their to "support protest deployment "... and that is exactly what they did . That doesn't sound like impartial peace keeping to me . I don't think it does to you either .
Just like if an IRS boss tells an auditor to give extra scrutiny and to delay applications of Tea Party and religious groups ,then that is exactly what they will do.

talaniman · Jul 11, 2013, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by smoothy

Dont need one.....his body was found in a gatted community where he did NOT live......where the very definition of GATED means one doesn't simply casually wander through it.....or it wouldn't be gated...

So, he had no business visiting his father watching a game with his brother, and making a snack run, shot dead within 70 feet of his fathers house? He must have snuck through the gate. And where is the link saying he was casing the place?

speechlesstx · Jul 11, 2013, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

Do you think it is the civil service employee acting on their own ? Nahh ,their political bosses are calling the shot. If Eric Holder sent them down their to "support protest deployment ",and that is exactly what they did . That doesn't sound like impartial peace keeping to me . I don't think it does to you either .
Just like if an IRS boss tells an auditor to give extra scrutiny and to delay applications of Tea Party and religious groups ,then that is exactly what they will do.

And if they don't, someone is liable to report them to the precrime division.

NeedKarma · Jul 11, 2013, 10:34 AM

someone is liable to report them to the precrime division.

But that's exactly what you're doing - you've judged them without knowing what actions they did.

speechlesstx · Jul 11, 2013, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

Ahhh Zimmerman's just a crazy a$$ cracker . Now the prosecutor wants to convince the jury that while he was on his back on the ground being pummelled and having his brains beat in ;that he was committing child abuse.

Exactly.

speechlesstx · Jul 11, 2013, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

But that's exactly what you're doing - you've judged them without knowing what actions they did.

If you're referring to the IRS scandal it's easy to judge on an admission of wrongdoing, which is how the whole thing became news in the first place. Do I really have to keep saying that?

NeedKarma · Jul 11, 2013, 10:49 AM

If you're referring to the IRS scandal..

Uh no, I referring to the "documents".

smoothy · Jul 11, 2013, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by talaniman

So, he had no business visiting his father watching a game with his brother, and making a snack run, shot dead within 70 feet of his fathers house? He must have snuck thru the gate. And where is the link saying he was casing the place?

So.. the fact he was black gave him the RIGHT to assult Zimmerman?

Listen to the 911 recording... he wasn't walking on the sidewalk... he was walking NEAR the houses... and there is no other reason anyone would be walking in the dark... close to peoples houses on THEIR property. Other than to be caseing them.

If someone's in my yard near my windows at night... and trust me there is going to be a problem too.

And if they come after me when I confront them... I'm going to shoot them too.

In fact if I catch them in my house or garage... I'm not even going to ask them... I've going to unload at least two 12 gauge shells into them... because they would have been up to no good.

And I'd have every legal right to do it.

Oh.. and contrary to what has been assumed... the 911 operators don't work for the police.. or have the power of an officer of the court. You aren't legally OBLIGATED to listen or do anything they say.

I know someone that works for 911 as an operator... the police COULDN'T even hire them if they were the only person to apply for an open job..