[morgaine300]

Are there more than one person? No.
- If there is one person, is that person the murderer? Yes.
- If there are more than one person, are there two? Three? Even more? N/A
- Is the gender of the person(s) relevant? According to the answer, it's a man, but it's not terribly relevant.

I guess we take the beach one then? See note below.
Is it relevant how high on the beach the corpse is? No.

Was the corpse beaten to death? Sorta. (Don't really like the word "beaten.")
Is the motive behind this relevant? Yes.
Was the corpse previously tortured? No.

About the beach... It might be easier to solve in the long-run if you found a 'more distinct' location. But it might be easier to find that location if you found other things first, I'm not sure. I'll leave it up to you what line of questioning you prefer for now.

[morgaine300]

Is it relevant how high on the beach the corpse is? No.

Oh darn, I'm already fixing answers. I was thinking elevation. I suspect you were thinking proximity to the water. IF it were on a beach, it would not likely be really close to the water, but otherwise still no.

[Unknown008]

Okay, I'll try not to focus on the beach too much for the time being.

Is money involved in the motive?
Is there theft involved?
Did the murdered want to take revenge?
Was the murderer jealous of the victim?

[Unknown008]

Oh darn, I'm already fixing answers. I was thinking elevation. I suspect you were thinking proximity to the water. IF it were on a beach, it would not likely be really close to the water, but otherwise still no.

Yes, I was thinking about it's proximity to water. Ok, noted down :)

[morgaine300]

Is money involved in the motive? No.

Is there theft involved? No.

Did the murdered want to take revenge? No.

Was the murderer jealous of the victim? Not really.

[Unknown008]

Did they fight each other?
Was the reason more 'emotional'?
Or was it about some materialistic item?
Was any of the two sane?

[Just Looking]

I'm in Los Angeles this weekend, but I still had to see what was going on in here. :confused: I'll be around on and off until Wednesday evening, then I'm off until November.

So, a new puzzle:

It says "apparently trampled". Did someone stage him to look trampled?
If so, was it staged to look like he was trampled by animals?
Or was it staged to look like he was trampled by people? (I'm thinking about cases where people have been trampled by crowds at concerts or store sales or huge events of some sort, etc. Could it be any of these?)

Was the man killed elsewhere and dumped at the beach?

You said to find a more distinct location. Is it important to find where on the beach he was found? For example, a lifeguard stand? Or is it important to find where the beach is? For example, some exotic location? Maybe Africa?

Is the murder victim famous? Rich?

You said the murderer was “not really” jealous. Did the man have something the murderer wanted?

He was sort of beaten to death. Was he crushed?

[morgaine300]

Sorry, work was really busy so I suspect Unky is now in bed. But then, Saturday's are always busy - just a matter if I get a few minutes to spare here and there.

Did they fight each other? Do you mean like boxing or fist fight or karate? If so, no.

Was the reason more 'emotional'? Yes.

Or was it about some materialistic item? No.

Was any of the two sane? Quite personally I don't consider most killers sane, but we'll say yes. ;)

[morgaine300]

[QUOTE]

I’m in Los Angeles this weekend, but I still had to see what was going on in here. :confused: I’ll be around on and off until Wednesday evening, then I’m off until November.

Hey, what the heck are you doing here? I'm confused too... girl, you're supposed to be having a nice wedding and honeymoon and forgetting about us. Not that I might your being here at all, and new hubby can play too, but I have a feeling he has other things in mind. ;)

It says "apparently trampled". Did someone stage him to look trampled? Yes.

If so, was it staged to look like he was trampled by animals? Yes.

Or was it staged to look like he was trampled by people? (I’m thinking about cases where people have been trampled by crowds at concerts or store sales or huge events of some sort, etc. Could it be any of these?) No.

Was the man killed elsewhere and dumped at the beach? No, he was left where he was killed.

Is the murder victim famous? Rich? Both irrelevant.

You said the murderer was “not really” jealous. Did the man have something the murderer wanted? No. (Don't make too much of that. Jealousy is not really the best word and projects too much into it, and it's really much simpler than that.)

He was sort of beaten to death. Was he crushed? No.

You said to find a more distinct location. Is it important to find where on the beach he was found? For example, a lifeguard stand? Or is it important to find where the beach is? For example, some exotic location? Maybe Africa?

Seems I opened a hornet's nest with that one. That isn't what I meant. The puzzle doesn't say exactly where it is and I don't know. A beach is a possibility. If you were to figure out another location I have in mind, it might more quickly lead to what they were doing. But if you figure out what they were doing, then a beach works fine and you'd understand what other type of location it also could be. So just depends which you think of first and you can pursue either line of questioning. Country doesn't matter.

I hope that makes sense. (See, this happens to me too, so stop being so paranoid. :D)

[Just Looking]

Our wedding is next Saturday. I'm in Los Angeles for my final dress fitting. Yep, don't think he'd be too happy with me if I was playing here during our wedding/honeymoon. :p

Well, if he was staging it to look like he was trampled by animals, three obvious thoughts are: Is it related to a safari? Is it related to a circus? Is it related to a ranch of some sort?

Actually, I suppose I should figure out what type of animals. This is relevant, right? Dogs? Elephants? Horses? Sheep? Cows? Haha - this could take a while. Okay, is it a wild type of animal? Domesticated?

It's an emotional reason: Revenge? Despair? Anger? Love? Hatred? Fear? Guilt? Depression? Envy? Frustration? Shame?

[morgaine300]

Our wedding is next Saturday. I'm in Los Angeles for my final dress fitting. Yep, don't think he'd be too happy with me if I was playing here during our wedding/honeymoon. :p

Ah, I see. So busy & hectic - this is maybe a nice distraction to chill back out. We don't want you all stressed out. (Good thing this isn't a hard one.)

So, you think this might take a while? I think you are already heading very much in the right direction.

Well, if he was staging it to look like he was trampled by animals, three obvious thoughts are: Is it related to a safari? Is it related to a circus? Is it related to a ranch of some sort? No to all.

Actually, I suppose I should figure out what type of animals. This is relevant, right? Yes.
Dogs? Elephants? Sheep? Cows? No.
Horses? Yes. (That didn't take any time at all.)
Okay, is it a wild type of animal? Domesticated? Doesn't matter.

It's an emotional reason: Revenge? Despair? Love? Fear? Guilt? Depression? Envy? Shame? No.
Anger? Yes.
Hatred? Frustration? Possibly these as well.

[morgaine300]

Latest puzzle, starting #656 (how did we get that many posts?)

A man is lying dead in the sand, apparently trampled. What happened?

[Just Looking]

Ah, I see. So busy & hectic - this is maybe a nice distraction to chill back out. We don't want you all stressed out. (Good thing this isn't a hard one.)

Yes, it is a nice distraction. :)


Were the man and the murderer related? Were they in business together? Co-workers? Boss/employee?


Horses? Yes. Horses and the sand - this makes me think of the wild horses that run on the beach in Hawaii, near Waikiki I think. Are there wild horses on the beach? Is the reason for the murder related to the horses? Are the horses part of a horseback riding business? Are they race horses?


Anger? Yes.
Hatred? Frustration? Possibly these as well.

Is there a land dispute involved?

[morgaine300]

Were the man and the murderer related? Were they in business together? Co-workers? Boss/employee? Relationship unknown.

Horses? Yes. Horses and the sand - this makes me think of the wild horses that run on the beach in Hawaii, near Waikiki I think. Are there wild horses on the beach? Possibly.

Is the reason for the murder related to the horses? Assumption made, but no.

Are the horses part of a horseback riding business? Are they race horses? Assumption made.

Is there a land dispute involved? No.

[Just Looking]

Horses? Yes. Horses and the sand - this makes me think of the wild horses that run on the beach in Hawaii, near Waikiki I think. Are there wild horses on the beach? Possibly.

Is the reason for the murder related to the horses? Assumption made, but no.

Are the horses part of a horseback riding business? Are they race horses? Assumption made.

Is there a land dispute involved? No.

Is it my assumption that there are multiple horses that is wrong? Is there only one horse involved? Was one of the men riding the horse? If so, was it the man? The murderer?

Is there a game involved? A sport?

Off the wall, but are we talking about real horses or fake horses?

Is a battle involved? A war?

Does this occur during modern times?

You told Unky that animals were not involved. That could mean they were not real? Or it could mean that the murderer staged it to look like the man was trampled by a horse, but really there were no horses anywhere?

Would the authorities have reason to believe the man murdered had been riding a horse? Owned a horse?

Does this have anything to do with Sleepy Hollow or Ichabod Crane?

You said you don't like the word "beaten". Was it one blow that killed him?

Was the man doing something that made the murderer angry at that moment? Or was this a problem that had been occurring and reached the point of murder?

Had the murderer seen the man prior to the time he killed him?

Was staging the murder to look like a trampling by horses (or horse) symbolic? Or was it just to avoid getting caught?

Was the man doing something illegal? Immoral? Was he doing something that caused the man to hate him (or become angry or frustrated) at that moment he killed him?

[morgaine300]

Some day I've got to remember this place shuts down every night around this time and stopped trying to post.

Is it my assumption that there are multiple horses that is wrong? Is there only one horse involved? Was one of the men riding the horse? If so, was it the man? The murderer?

You're still making the same assumption with this whole line of questioning. See your other question below.

Is there a game involved? Yes. A sport? Um, I wouldn't call it that, you might, but close idea.


Off the wall, but are we talking about real horses or fake horses? Same assumption.

Is a battle involved? A war? No.

Does this occur during modern times? Yes.

(That's an interesting question. I'm even more convinced now that I know where you've gotten your last couple of puzzles from.)

You told Unky that animals were not involved. That could mean they were not real? Which still involves the same assumption. Or it could mean that the murderer staged it to look like the man was trampled by a horse, but really there were no horses anywhere? YES!!!

(You asked if it was staged. Then you asked if it looked like animals, and then horses. Somewhere after that you created horses, fake or otherwise. There are no horses in the scenario. I could project that horses could be around, currently or at some point in time, simply as part of the setting. But if so, they aren't involved in the scenario.)

Would the authorities have reason to believe the man murdered had been riding a horse? Hmm.. never thought about it. Yes, they'd have reason to believe he could have been riding one. Owned a horse? Not necessarily.

You said you don't like the word "beaten". Was it one blow that killed him? Yes.

Was the man doing something that made the murderer angry at that moment? Yes. Or was this a problem that had been occurring and reached the point of murder? Could've occured before but not relevant.

Had the murderer seen the man prior to the time he killed him? Yes.

Was staging the murder to look like a trampling by horses (or horse) symbolic? No. Or was it just to avoid getting caught? Yes.

Was the man doing something illegal? Immoral? No.
Was he doing something that caused the man to hate him (or become angry or frustrated) at that moment he killed him? Yes.

Does this have anything to do with Sleepy Hollow or Ichabod Crane?

I had a very good laugh over this one. While I suppose something like this could happen in Sleepy Hollow, and while it would also be perfectly plausible, no. No Ichabod or vanTussels or trees that spring alive, and alas, no Johnny Depp either.

[Unknown008]

Is, what the dispute was about, relevant?
- Is that about something the victim said?
- Is that about an object?
- Is that about a person?
(I know those last two are quite improbable as no more persons are involved and that there are no materialistic reason, but to be on the safe side)

If it was about something the victim said,
- Was that an insult concerning the game?
- Was that more of an annoying remark?
- Was that perhaps more about bragging?

Is the game an entertainment not involving prize money?
- If so, is a ball (or balls) involved?
- Are guns involved?
- Are weapons involved? (sword, arrow, lance, etc)

ETA: Hi JLo, thanks :o

[Just Looking]

I had a very good laugh over this one. While I suppose something like this could happen in Sleepy Hollow, and while it would also be perfectly plausible, no. No Ichabod or vanTussels or trees that spring alive, and alas, no Johnny Depp either.

Good thing I didn't ask about ghosts. It was one of my possibilities. :p

Okay, so there is a game, possibly a sport, involved. Is it a game that is normally played in the sand? Is it volleyball? Football? Frisbee? (I really have my hopes up for volleyball, as that makes sense with the question about sand, but that really seems like a sport to me.) Kite flying? Building sand castles?

Was the anger over the man beating the murderer at the game?

Did the murder occur at day? Night? Is it relevant?

Did the game involve something that was used as the murder weapon?

I keep reading one of your replies: Did they fight each other? Do you mean like boxing or fist fight or karate? If so, no. Could this mean they were competing against each other?

ETA: Hi Unky. Good questions.

[morgaine300]

Welcome back. If I stay awake long enough, we might solve this tonight.

Is, what the dispute was about, relevant? You just created a dispute, but yes. (Anger doesn't imply dispute but there was one, yes.)
- Is that about something the victim said? Yes.
- Is that about an object? Yes.
- Is that about a person? No.
(I know those last two are quite improbable as no more persons are involved and that there are no materialistic reason, but to be on the safe side)

Sorry, I believe that was misleading. Because of the way the line of questioning went when you ask about an item, I took that with a different meaning. There is an item "involved."

Oh heck, did I just dig another hole? (Sorry, brain fart or something.)

If it was about something the victim said,
- Was that an insult concerning the game? No.
- Was that more of an annoying remark? It would be annoying, but probably not how you mean.
- Was that perhaps more about bragging? Not really.

Is the game an entertainment not involving prize money? Not in this case, or so logic would dictate.
- If so, is a ball (or balls) involved? No.
- Are guns involved? No.
- Are weapons involved? (sword, arrow, lance, etc) No.

[Unknown008]

Thanks for the welcome :)

Hm... then it means that the puzzle does involve money? (I asked about money earlier and the response was in the negative)

Is it a game we normally have in a casino? (cards, roulette, slots, dice etc)
Is it a game concerning luck? Skill? Prediction?