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    #641

    Jan 16, 2010, 03:24 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Catsmine View Post
    I don't know about "cannot" have a place. Their place is not very significant due to their lack of impact on the business paradigm, yet they are important in both maintaining quality and improving volume. Don't fall into the trap of equating significance with importance.

    The innovative ones also go bankrupt very spectacularly.
    I agree and I wouldn't say that they are not innovative either. They may not have the massive funding for R & D however a lot of new inventions and innovative changes have come from small business also. I know that you are not looking for good reasons for small business but small business is a growth 'market' in this country and has been for some time. Many times due to being small the owners of these companies have to use their resources in more effectively and productively.

    Sorry Unky, it is difficult to think negatively about small business.
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    #642

    Jan 16, 2010, 03:52 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Stringer View Post
    I agree and I wouldn't say that they are not innovative either. They may not have the massive funding for R & D however a lot of new inventions and innovative changes have come from small business also. I know that you are not looking for good reasons for small business but small business is a growth 'market' in this country and has been for some time. Many times due to being small the owners of these companies have to use their resources in more effectively and productively.

    Sorry Unky, it is difficult to think negatively about small business.
    Hey, I'm tryin' to help the guy out here.

    My original examples started small but had an innovative business model that allowed for rapid growth. Ford Motors is another one. The big businesses with a history of innovation are the ones that change the entire concept of business. You and I and the millions of other small businesses are the ones that keep the wheels turning but we're not going to turn the wheels sideways to make hovercraft.

    I look stuff up on the web. Google shuts down Tyrannies (Beijing)
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    #643

    Jan 16, 2010, 09:20 PM

    If I say there are small businesses like hawkers in roads which make a lot of noise and block the roads, do you think that is a 'good' point?


    Or can I for example place more emphasis on the 'modern business', and say like "all modern business need to grow and we cannot afford having many small firms"?

    Note: It's as if I'm in the complete darkness here. I'm trying to feel my way out, and trying to know where to go and where not.
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    #644

    Jan 16, 2010, 09:26 PM

    Hey unky,just saying hey.. its 430am.
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    #645

    Jan 16, 2010, 09:31 PM

    Hey Red! Stringer was looking for you earlier, about 8 hours ago.

    It's 8.37 am here :)

    Morning! :)
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    #646

    Jan 16, 2010, 09:34 PM

    Its nearly morning here unky...

    There's a house alarm going off across the road,I think the whole neighbour hood is up..

    How's your assignment shaping up?
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    #647

    Jan 16, 2010, 09:41 PM
    Hi, Unky. :)

    Cats just went to sleep so it will be awhile before you an answer form him.

    Do you have a given definition of small and large businesses?
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    #648

    Jan 16, 2010, 09:45 PM

    Well, not really an assignment. Our teacher asked half the class to look for the +ves and the other half to look for -ves, along with examples. I'm already struggling with the arguments... I think I'll need to go the other way round like suggested Stringer, that is looking for small firms, and what they do. I'll need to give it a try.
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    Jan 16, 2010, 09:46 PM
    Hmm, I saw on a site that a small business is one which does not exceed 100 employees... but I cannot recall anything else. :o
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    #650

    Jan 16, 2010, 10:10 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown008 View Post
    Well, not really an assignment. Our teacher asked half the class to look for the +ves and the other half to look for -ves, along with examples. I'm already struggling with the arguments... I think I'll need to go the other way round like suggested Stringer, that is looking for small firms, and what they do. I'll need to give it a try.
    Good luck. :)
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    #651

    Jan 17, 2010, 03:49 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown008 View Post
    Well, not really an assignment. Our teacher asked half the class to look for the +ves and the other half to look for -ves, along with examples. I'm already struggling with the arguments... I think I'll need to go the other way round like suggested Stringer, that is looking for small firms, and what they do. I'll need to give it a try.
    A Ha! Here's an approach you can use. Small businesses either have a good idea and grow into big business, like Ford or McDonald's or Wal-mart, or they do not have new ideas and either plod along or fold up. Those that plod along provide jobs but not much else. Those that fold up provide headlines.
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    Jan 17, 2010, 07:48 AM

    Thanks Cats! However, what do you mean by headlines? You don't mean they are in the news headlines, do you?
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    Jan 17, 2010, 09:42 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown008 View Post
    Thanks Cats! However, what do you mean by headlines? You don't mean they are in the news headlines, do you?
    Yes, I mean news headlines, primarily about unemployment statistics and tax revenues and Bankruptcy filings. I don't mean individual companies making headlines.
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    Jan 17, 2010, 09:47 AM

    Ok, I think that's enough. The tougher part, examples!! :( Some business plodding along or folding up you know of?
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    #655

    Jan 17, 2010, 10:05 AM
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    Ok, I think that's enough. The tougher part, examples!!! :( Some business plodding along or folding up you know of?
    I know of lots, but they're so small your teacher will never have heard of them.

    One plodder I can think of has made the news as an example of Barbecue is the Skylight Inn close by me.

    Skylight Inn, Ayden
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    Jan 17, 2010, 10:07 AM

    That doesn't matter, she only wants examples examples examples! Thanks again, you're a real help! :)
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    Jan 17, 2010, 10:09 AM
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    That doesn't matter, she only wants examples examples examples! Thanks again, you're a real help! :)
    You could search for statistic headlines, too.

    Got to go now, driving lessons. I get to supervise.
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    #658

    Jan 17, 2010, 10:12 AM

    Cya Cats! :)
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    #659

    Jan 18, 2010, 08:03 AM
    Good morning if anyone is out there.
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    Jan 18, 2010, 08:04 AM
    Good morning glory!

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