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    #621

    Apr 15, 2013, 01:30 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    I sure don't know why bombs are outlawed. That's a HUGE encroachment on my second Amendment rights.

    excon
    Actually they are not outlawed. They are regulated heavily by the ATF.
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    #622

    Apr 15, 2013, 01:47 PM
    Just heard Wolf Blitzer say it could be tea party or some anti-tax group.
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    #623

    Apr 15, 2013, 02:17 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    just heard Wolf Blitzer say it could be tea party or some anti-tax group.
    Liberal knees are apparently jerking all over. NY Post says they have a suspect and it's a Saudi national.
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    #624

    Apr 15, 2013, 02:58 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    I sure don't know why bombs are outlawed. That's a HUGE encroachment on my second Amendment rights.

    excon
    Are you a goul, Where is your concern for the maimed and injured? If this is where your rights lead, then you have some serious thinking to do. But no guns involved, there are more effective means of mass murder and terrorism and no guns can prevent it
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    #625

    Apr 15, 2013, 03:25 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    just heard Wolf Blitzer say it could be tea party or some anti-tax group.
    Is that as bad as Bill Maher ?

    Bill Maher: Second Amendment Is BS! BLASTS Liberals For Being Scared - YouTube




    2nd amendment is BS ?
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    #626

    Apr 15, 2013, 03:28 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by cdad View Post
    Is that as bad as Bill Maher ?

    Bill Maher: Second Amendment Is BS! BLASTS Liberals For Being Scared - YouTube

    2nd amendment is BS ?
    In the context of recent events it just might be, Stockton made the same point in this that I do: this is eighteenth century thinking and is out of date and out of context in relation to the world today. I am pleased there are some right wing americans who see it
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    #627

    Apr 15, 2013, 03:35 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Liberal knees are apparently jerking all over. NY Post says they have a suspect and it's a Saudi national.
    So out of desperation ,I switched to FOX... and there was Shep Smith referencing Waco and Oklahoma City .
    My observation; the bombs went off ;and the next image was 1st responders ,Police , Emergency medical personnel etc .running towards the danger .
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    #628

    Apr 15, 2013, 03:38 PM
    Nicholas Kristof blamed Republicans.

    Boston Marathon Explosion | Bombing | Nicholas Kristof | Mediaite

    Pathetic dolt...
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    #629

    Apr 15, 2013, 03:39 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    so out of desperation ,I switched to FOX...and there was Shep Smith referencing Waco and Oklahoma City .
    My observation; the bombs went off ;and the next image was 1st responders ,Police , Emergency medical personnel etc .running towards the danger .
    And? Of course the images are going to be what's going on on the ground and it's not often you get actual footage of the explosion but even at this distance it had emotional impact
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    #630

    Apr 15, 2013, 03:48 PM
    and?
    It represents the best instincts of the retards that report the news to us
    of course the images are going to be what's going on on the ground and it's not often you get actual footage of the explosion but even at this distance it had emotional impact
    Yes the images are horrible... perhaps that is why I search for the heroism... the acts of goodness.
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    #631

    Apr 15, 2013, 04:13 PM
    Let's take an act of goodness take the bomber, tie him to a stick of gelignite and let him live out his life with what ever he has left. The goodness is that others will see the example and take warning
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    #632

    Apr 16, 2013, 09:31 AM
    So many of the runners continued to run across the finishing line and onwards to the Massachusetts General Hospital, in a rush to give blood, that they had to be turned away.

    "Due to the generosity of our donors we don't need blood at this time," wrote the Red Cross for Eastern Massachusetts on Twitter.
    But the volunteers kept on coming, leading the organisation to tweet an hour later: "We do *NOT* need blood at this time. Please schedule a future donation."

    So great was the wish to help that the Red Cross was forced to set up a diary to arrange appointments for all those queuing up to give blood.

    Others provided more immediate assistance. One man was caught on camera rushing straight to site where the bomb had detonated, where bloodied people were lying dazed on the pavement. He ripped off his belt to make a tourniquet and stem the bleeding, before turning to assist other seriously-injured victims.

    Luke Russert reported on Twitter that he watched as a white-shirted volunteer in his red official baseball cap wheeled a woman out of the danger zone before rushing immediately back to the scene.

    A retired American Football star, Joe Andruzzi, who won the Superbowl three times with the New England Patriots, carried victims away from the carnage (above). All three of his brothers were firemen in New York who responded to the September 11 attacks on the Twin Towers.

    His charity cancer foundation was hosting an event on Boylston Street – the same street where the explosions were detonated – and the 37-year-old immediately dashed to help.
    Other people opened their homes to those who were stranded, or offered lifts to people without transport. A Google document was set up with offers of help, such as: "Located across the street from Mass General Hospital. I have a couch and an inflatable twin mattress for anyone who needs to stay."

    Kristin Corona who lives in central Boston wrote: "I have a couch to offer and two beautiful chihuahuas to love you. My apartment is open to anyone in need."

    Restaurants in the area offered free meals and shelter to those caught up in the tragedy, allowing people to pay only if they were able to.

    "Open wifi, place to charge your phone, cold drinks, or just don't want to be alone," tweeted the owner of El Pelon, a Mexican restaurant in the area.

    "My coworkers and staff deserve a lot of credit: not one blinked when asked, not one when home when they could, those not working came in."
    Boston Marathon heroes: Kindness and humanity amid the carnage - Telegraph
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    #633

    Apr 16, 2013, 10:14 AM
    Barney Frank wasted no time politicizing the Boston Bombing... like a good democrat.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...eal-with-this/


    So... when is the left going to push for a Ban on pressure cookers and their confication... and a retrocative registry for every ball bearing in a persons possession so they can track them in case any of them are ever used in a bomb?
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    #634

    Apr 16, 2013, 11:33 AM
    Figures . Now there will be alerts about cooking devices. Can the propane Bar B Q grill be far behind ?

    Authorities are now saying that the explosive devices in Boston were fashioned from pressure cookers. (Yes, like the closed pot you might use to cook rice at home.) As it happens, pressure cookers have a nefarious history in counterterrorism circles. In 2004, the Department of Homeland Security was concerned enough about pressure cooker bombs to issue an alert to federal and state security officials: “A technique commonly taught in Afghan terrorist training camps is the use/conversion of pressure cookers into IEDs,” the bulletin warned.
    That bulletin cited several plots from 2002 to 2004 to use pressure cooker bombs in France, India and Nepal. But more recently there have been at least three other instances of would-be terrorists in the west, all of them Islamic radicals, in possession of pressure cookers for reasons that seemed not to involve having friends over for dinner. One was an Army private linked to the 2010 Fort Hood shooter Nidal Hasan, who had reportedly been taking bomb-making tips from the al Qaeda's short-lived (literally) magazine Inspire and had various weapons and explosives along with his cooking pot. (The magazine reportedly recommended pressure cookers as explosive devices.) A 2010 suicide bomber in Stockholm had rigged a pressure cooker bomb that failed to detonate. And as a newer DHS warning about the kitchen devices noted, the failed 2010 SUV bomb in New York's Times Square was a pressure cooker device featuring 120 firecrackers. The same DHS memo refers to a March 2010 bombing with a pressure cooker at a western Christian aid agency in Pakistan that killed six people.
    Counterterror officials are surely well aware of these facts and studying any leads that might link the device in Boston to Islamic radicals here or abroad. But it's important to bear in mind that the ability to make these bombs is hardly unique to al Qaeda and its sympathizers. Details on how to make a pressure cooker bomb can also be found on websites associated with anarchy and other forms of non-religious radicalism, including this one which describes a bomb “affectionately known as a HELLHOUND.” The identity of the Boston bomber or bombers remains very much unclear, and it would be foolish to jump to conclusions. It would also be foolish to ignore the twisted recent history of the pressure cooker as a method for killing innocent people.
    A Short Recent History of Pressure Cooker Bombs | TIME.com

    They can pry my spatula from my cold dead fingers.
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    #635

    Apr 16, 2013, 12:19 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    figures . now there will be alerts about cooking devices. Can the propane Bar B Q grill be far behind ?
    My mom used to use her pressure cooker to make a fantastic meal with meaty ham bones and white beans. Yum!

    Thank goodness everyone had handguns and carry permits in Boston.
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    #636

    Apr 16, 2013, 01:09 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    figures . now there will be alerts about cooking devices. Can the propane Bar B Q grill be far behind ?


    A Short Recent History of Pressure Cooker Bombs | TIME.com

    They can pry my spatula from my cold dead fingers.
    I've got 2 propane smokers, a propane grill, a pressure cooker and we sell ball bearings. Am I going to be on a watch list?
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    #637

    Apr 16, 2013, 01:14 PM
    And it continues... according to Steny hoyer the Boston bombing is proof that the sequester is bad or something.
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    #638

    Apr 16, 2013, 01:29 PM
    And it continues... according to Steny hoyer the Boston bombing is proof that the sequester is bad or something.
    He was specifically asked that question:
    Asked by a reporter whether Monday's attack makes the argument for addressing sequestration, Hoyer explained, "I think there are multiple reasons for ensuring that we invest in our security -- both domestic and international security. That we invest in the education of our children. That we invest in growing jobs in America. And don't pursue an irrational, across-the-board policy of cutting the highest priorities and the lowest priorities essentially the same percentage.... I think this is another proof of that -- if proof is needed, which I don't think frankly it is."
    The he says:
    Hoyer added, "I doubt that [sequestration's] having any impact presently --
    So basically, had you read the actual article, he says the exact opposite of what you posted.
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    #639

    Apr 16, 2013, 01:58 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    He was specifically asked that question:


    The he says:


    So basically, had you read the actual article, he says the exact opposite of what you posted.
    He's talking out of both sides of his mouth.

    He said the bombing was proof - "I think this is another proof" - that the sequester -"an irrational, across-the-board policy of cutting the highest priorities and the lowest priorities essentially the same percentage" was bad but that it wasn't "presently" having any impact. If you weren't so busy trying to discredit me you would know that.
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    #640

    Apr 16, 2013, 02:07 PM
    I simply read the article and it totally contradicts your linking it to "the Boston bombing is proof that the sequester is bad".

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