[tomder55]

We already documented that most states premiums are higher compared to what was previously available before the exchanges. And all those young invincibles ? Well the ones that can are staying on their parent's plans .The ones that aren't are going to get subsidies on the exchanges ,or will pay the nominal fine (ooops I mean tax) .
I see the unavoidable death spiral in our future.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_spiral_(insurance)

[talaniman]

Amazing how the forecasters of gloom and doom didn't see this coming 30 years ago and do something about it then.

[J_9]

Amazing how the forecasters of gloom and doom didn't see this coming 30 years ago and do something about it then.

The Goracle forgot to mention it when he was inventing the internet and global warming.

[paraclete]

The Goracle forgot to mention it when he was inventing the internet and global warming.

He didn't invent global warming, Maggie Thatcher did, but he should have seen this coming a classic J curve if ever we saw one, as a result all the ice in North America will melt, Oh! Sorry, that has already happened, Oh, I know, the conveyor will shut down and we will have another ice age. It's all about the hot air in North America really, it is rising leave the continent to freeze. Well, this is a good a theory as any...

[NeedKarma]

The Goracle forgot to mention it when he was inventing the internet and global warming.

Why do people keep repeating this myth?

[tomder55]

Inventing the Internet - YouTube

[smoothy]

Funny how computer professionals can be so clueless about things, and the claims their own people have made for a very long time, like AL Gores... funny how many people believed him just because he said so... 1 minute on Google would have proven otherwise.

I was playing comuter games across the internet (true they were text based D&D type games at the time (forget the exact name) and this was on Digital Equipment Corporation VAX computers. I also got my first email account in 1981. Over 15 years before most people ever heard of the Internet. And many, many years after it was already in use. Despite Al Goes claims to have invented it when he would have been 11 if he had in fact had any part of it.

And as far as thje planet warming....odd how its doing that during a decade when planetary average mean tempratures have been falling.

[NeedKarma]

That was for the funding for Arpanet.

[tomder55]

Yesterday I kept hearing the term 'septic ' code by IT people speaking about the Obamacare web site failure/ Not quite sure all that it means ,but it appears that the assumption that there is an easy fix is a rosey scenario.

The client contracts with the manufacturer to develop and install a system. The project starts. The completion date slips. It keeps slipping. Each time the adjusted delivery date approaches, the project slips yet again. At some point, one of three things happens: the manufacturer/vendor abandons the project; the client cancels the project; or the manufacturer delivers a system that the client terms wholly inadequate and unacceptable. In some cases, the effort has gone on for years, with millions of dollars spent and little to show for it.

http://brucefwebster.com/BFWA-SystemsFailure.pdf

The comments and leaks coming out from a hundred sources make it pretty clear that this project was going to face a disastrous launch, particularly with the insistence on an October 1 go-live date. Furthermore, it is also becoming clear that the problems with the architecture, design, implementation and testing of Healthcare.gov are so fundamental and deep that the current system many never work satisfactorily — that it may, in fact, be infected with “septic” code, design, etc. I believe this was known by many inside the project, and yet it went live on October 1st anyway — truly wishful, or if you will, magic, thinking.

Magic thinking is, of course, a very common phenomenon of the Left, for all their claims of being more “rational” and “scientific” and “objective” than the Right. You can see it in their beliefs that the passage of Obamacare and their own good intentions and righteous cause would somehow negate the laws of economics, psychology, biology, medicine, and unintended consequences. What is happening with Healthcare.gov is that same magic thinking phenomenon in a very public, mechanistic, and immediately testable environment. Even the media is losing its ability and desire to cover for the spectacular failure going on.

Obamacare, IT, and magic thinking : And Still I Persist…
FUBAR

[smoothy]

That was for the funding for Arpanet.

That was all in place and in use long before Al Gore knew what was different between boys and girls.

[paraclete]

Funny how computer professionals can be so clueless about things, and the claims their own people have made for a very long time, like AL Gores... funny how many people believed him just because he said so... 1 minute on Google would have proven otherwise.

I was playing comuter games across the internet (true they were text based D&D type games at the time (forget the exact name) and this was on Digital Equipment Corporation VAX computers. I also got my first email account in 1981. Over 15 years before most people ever heard of the Internet. And many, many years after it was already in use. Despite Al Goes claims to have invented it when he would have been 11 if he had in fact had any part of it.

And as far as thje planet warming....odd how its doing that during a decade when planetary average mean tempratures have been falling.

There are many myths, Smoothy, and some of us have been involved in technology longer than we care to remember. I brought the first micro computers into this country, I was remotely accessing computers in the 1980's and Mr Gore can kiss my... well no he can't actually. If he invented anything it is the myth of the J curve

[smoothy]

There are many myths, Smoothy, and some of us have been involved in technology longer than we care to remember. I brought the first micro computers into this country, I was remotely accessing computers in the 1980's and Mr Gore can kiss my... well no he can't actually. If he invented anything it is the myth of the J curve

I learned programing in in college 1980, on a Comadore CBM (part of my Electronic Engineering Degree)... I bought my first computer in 1981... a Ohio Scientific Superboard (about the time the very first IBM PC was released, which ran on basica in rom, not MS/DOS yet)... in the mid 1980's I was on the very small team that invented and got the IEEE 802.3 standard established for Ethernet. I also worked for a stretch on Government PDP/11 and VAX 11/785 mini-mainframes back in the day before they became museum pieces. So my background goes further back than some...not as far as others.

Never worked with CP/M for example...but did with VMS and every flavor and variety of Microsoft operating systems...(except Windows 8.1 I haven't messed with yet.)

How many people here have messed around with or even knoew about WIndows 286? It was the predecessor of Windows 3.0.

Yep..messed around with OS/2 for a while as well as GEM.....before they fell by the wayside.

[excon]

Hello again,

My d**k is bigger than yours. Bill Gates and I are friends.

excon

[smoothy]

Hello again,

My d**k is bigger than yours. Bill Gates and I are friends.

excon

Good for you... ask him for some money... he's got lots more than he needs.

I could use a boxfull of it too while you are at it.

[paraclete]

Hello again,

My d**k is bigger than yours. Bill Gates and I are friends.

excon

Well Ex I never doubted that, in your dreams of course.

[speechlesstx]

Where have I heard this before?

In a press briefing where reporters asked about no other topic, Pelosi acknowledged that the problems dogging users trying to enroll in insurance plans on the HealthCare.gov website are "beyond glitches." But the trouble, she quickly added, "does not take away from the fact that we're on a path" toward installing the many benefits under the law.

"The situation right now is unacceptable; it's unfortunate," she said at a news conference in the Capitol. "But we did not work very hard and … dedicate our public service to a website. It was to an initiative for affordable, quality healthcare for all Americans.

"Just fix it, so we can go forward," she added. "Fix the technology, and let's not get too bogged down in what happens if they're not able to fix it."


Read more: Pelosi on ObamaCare: 'Just fix it' (Video) - The Hill's Video
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This is beyond surreal now.

[tomder55]

If what I'm hearing is true then it may not be fixable without a complete overhaul .
Ask Me Help Desk - View Single Post - Unaffordable Health Care Act

[speechlesstx]

If what I'm hearing is true then it may not be fixable without a complete overhaul .
Ask Me Help Desk - View Single Post - Unaffordable Health Care Act

Yup. $400 million down the drain and we're just supposed to cross our fingers and hope for the best.

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

Yup. $400 million down the drain and we're just supposed to cross our fingers and hope for the best.

Yup. $24 BILLION is what the Republican shutdown of government cost us. The Dems are pikers compared to YOU.

excon

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, Steve:
Yup. BILLION is what the Republican shutdown of government cost us. The Dems are pikers compared to YOU.

excon

So why didn't Dems come to the table and talk?