[labman]

It is quite possible all those reports are phony. Bio Spot may be a little worse that other products, but nothing is completely safe.

[jcribbs]

It is quite possible all those reports are phony. Bio Spot may be a little worse that other products, but nothing is completely safe.

It is also quite possible due to the large number of the reports that they are absolutely true. Since, as you put it, "Biospot is a little worse", why would you take the chance?

Makes no sense if you love your pet.

If you do a little research labman, you'll find more than the one site I posted... There are numerous sites out there regarding the hazards of biospot with personal pet horror stories regarding biospot..

A few more dollars spent on each pet I have is certainly worth my peace of mind concerning their health.

The ONE TIME I bought biospot from was from Dr Foster online. Right after I bought it with a credit card, I started reading. It took me about 30 mintues reading to change my mind. I instantly called them at their 800 number and get a different product... There is no way I will EVER use biospot. They were very understanding even though they still sell this product... They woman I spoke with also does not use Biospot and does not recommend it... She just works there.

[froggy7]

Actually, Biospot for dogs can kill cats. It's a permethrin-based product, and cats are highly sensitive to permethrin. Personally, I would NEVER use a permethrin-based product in a house with cats, because there are other effective options out there. Dogs have no problem with the permethrins, on the other hand.

From the ASPCA: http://www.aspca.org/site/DocServer/....pdf?docID=130

(Ok... I was expecting a better heading for the link. It's to an article called PERMETHRIN SPOT-ON TOXICOSES IN CATS by a vet at the ASPCA Animal Poison Control Center.)

[AKaeTrue]

Bio spot contains the same active ingredient as the
Product K9 Advantix.
K9 Advantix is sold right along side of Frontline and many other
Flea products at the vets office.
There is nothing wrong with bio spot, it holds the same risks as many other
Flea and/or tick treatments.
That cats cannot metabolise some chemicals used in flea/tick treatments sold over the counter or sold at a vets office.
There are warnings on all products that are dangerous to cats.
If you own cats, be careful and read product labeling.
Accidents do happen; however it is not as easy to poison a cat as some of these websites say.
Enough of the product has to be absorbed through the cats skin or ingested in order to poison.
The kicker to this is that almost every cleaning product people use to clean their house with can poison cats the same way - you just don't hear about that.
Heck, Lilly flowers can even poison a cat... no joke.

So to put so much blame on Bio spot alone is really senseless;
However, it is good to warn people about the potential risk of any product
That could potentially be harmful to animals.

[labman]

As I said before, I trust DocWill on this issue. It does sound like Bio Spot is indeed slightly worse than the more expensive products. As bad as some say? I doubt it. Are you feeding your dog a commercial dog chow? Links to sites saying that will kill your dog are as close as the banner ads here. I have followed such ads on other sites, and they are just plain dishonest. I wouldn't let the fear mongering here make you change.

[jcribbs]

Hehe... Actually my dogs eat Canadae and my cats eat Felidae. I feel like I an ingredient specialist... I steer far away from the brands with food additives and corn fillers. I like the brands I feed because they are made from human grade products. They cost a little more but my babies are worth it.

And we will continue to use frontline plus... They are worth that too.

And labman, I have to say, I love labs too. I have my first. She is an older adult lab/rott mix that I adopted from the pound several years ago. She is the best dog I have ever had. She spent nearly a year in a concrete cage. I have never had a lab before and she is so faithful. She works outside with me and carries my tools when I doing stuff. She carries my hammer, my cigarettes, cat toys, sticks, rocks, limbs and whatever else she thinks I might need. I have never had such a dog... Labs are the best. She is jet black and the love of my life.. [except for my dear little husband]. I got her when he was working out of state. Emma went through a big adjustment when he came back home and she had to share me. We live in the country and she is a true companion animal. She is covered in nicks and scars from her previous life and I had to really socialize her. The end of her tail will never grow hair. It is a mass of scar tissue from "something".. She was fearful of everything at first. Now she is a people dog and she loves everyone. Her moods are based on mine. But anyway, I was just saying... labs are great.

Her "friend" is a st bernard mix that was in the pound for 16 months. She is a very good dog too. Her little hips are crippled from concrete. But she is our baby. We adopted Molly first. We had her a year before I got the lab so she would have someone with her... She is younger than the lab by several years. She is a kind and gentle soul.

We will always make the life of these two dogs as gentle as we can. They have both suffered in their lives. Both of these are older adults dogs and were grown when we adopted them. Emma is already grey on her chin which makes me sad.

We recently got a new bullmastiff mix puppy to exercise the older dogs... All three were pound pups. Blossom, Emma and Molly...

Good luck on biospot and hopefully you won't experience any problems...

Jenn

p.s.

Here's a few pics of my crew.
Husband as watering and they were running in the wetness seeing how dirty they could get... It makes them livey. But see Molly hunkered on her hips. They are just crooked from constant concrete pressure. They hurt her but she does not have hip displasia.. Vet says they can't do anything. She sleeps on pads and we keep soft covering in her dog house. She does not have to lay on anything hard any more.





Blossom is 4.5 months old... Just a big baby.

She was helping me... I was clearing land and was resting and she brought me my cigs. She is a true helper.. You can see the grey on her chin. Her tail is a blur. She wags it constantly if she is helping...



I need to put them on a diet because they are all fat little pig dogs. But it is difficult to do that. I am feedign the pup separate for a couple extra meals a day but the big girls are just big. Blossom has been running them so hopefullly... that will be some extra exercise for them. Because she is relentless in her play. She is half bullmastiff and half great pyrenees. I actually have spoken to the woman who "pounded her"... She was born march 13th.

[AKaeTrue]

jcribbs, I love hearing about adoption tails.
The pics of your babies are beautiful.
I have a lab x, a Chihuahua x, and a Rottweiler, all were rescues from the animal shelter and a rescue group.
I tried bio spot and none of my animals were harmed.
I did however see a flea or 2 so I chose to continue treatment with Frontline plus.
For me, the Frontline plus is way more expensive than bio spot.
I can buy 4 tubes of bio spot for the same price as 1 tube of Frontline plus.
The Frontline works for me though.
My mother, on the other hand, uses frontline too, but it does not work on keeping the ticks off her dogs.
So strange how the same product can work so differently for different people.
When my dogs go for their next yearly, I'm switching to Revolution (well I'm going to give it a try) - this way maybe I'll be able to save on not having to buy heartguard.

Thanks for sharing your babies with us.
I enjoyed looking at their pictures.

[jcribbs]

Thank you... My kids are grown so most of my time is spent with my dog babies... We nearly have the same kind of dogs..

I get my frontline online at petshed. It's much cheaper online. I get a years supply for the extra large dogs for 117.00 delivered to my mailbox. I then ration it according to weight of the animal.

FYI... frontline plus for dogs is EXACTLY the same for cats. So at Petshed, I get a real bargain. Check it out. I live in the US and it takes about 5 days to get it in the mail.

[AKaeTrue]

I spend $107 a month on 3 dogs and 5 cats.
That deal sounds too good to be true...
I'm going there to check it out right now!!

[labman]

My vet said Revolution isn't the best for ticks. In 4 summers, my one dog had one tick. My dogs aren't out in the woods or fields very much.

[JeffAHayes]

I'm on my second dog in a row using BioSpot...

Although we've never noted any serious health problems stemming from it (the first, a Shih Tzu, died from cancer at 12.5, but there's no way of knowing if BioSpot played a role in that), neither liked or likes the application.

The Shih Tzu would run from me as soon as she saw me with it, but my little Tater Tot (very well behaved and loving, half chihuahua, half Jack Russell, about 12 pound, male), will hop in my lap, let me cut the package open and apply it and rub it down his back and sort of rub it in a little and just sit there and let me love him a bit... BUT, after he gets down, he runs around for a while and acts like it BURNS (and I can imagine a 45% solution of permethrin, plus 5% pyriproxyten -- whatever THAT is -- just MIGHT burn)... I usually apply it at night... get him from his bed, then put him back in bed (he sleeps in a training crate he got used to during toilet training 3 years back), and when he gets back in there, he won't even get in his bed and curl up... he'll sort of bend OVER it, with his back lifted in the air, like he's trying to speed evaporation, or something...

Then, after a few hours, he usually acts like he just feels "run down" for say half a day or so before he's back to his normal, springy, energetic self... I've never seen any tremors, although he has trembled a time or to -- nothing bad enough to make me want to take him to the emergency vet... I'm checking into this NOW because the other products ARE so expensive, and the only place I know I can get them is from my vet, and she refuses to WRITE prescriptions (she's a GREAT vet, but she says she doesn't trust online prescription places to provide non-counterfeit prescriptions)...

I'll be treating him again tonight, and will need it again the end of February, so I have about a month... May stick with BioSpot if you folks think it's normal for the dog to just have a bit of discomort from it (although it really bothers ME to see him go through that).

It's also possible that maybe I'm rubbing it in a bit too much, but I want to make sure I get it past his fur (not REALLY thick). I generally start between his shoulderblades, then slide the application back down his spine a bit, then turn the little plastic vial sideways and sort of use it like a toothless "brush" to gently rub in the same direction a time or two and try to make sure it gets to his skin. I think I'll avoid that part this time and see if I get different results -- especially since we're in mid-winter and it's not as necessary as normal, anyway.
Jeff