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    #41

    Feb 12, 2014, 08:51 AM
    Hello again, tom:
    no it wasn't the whole staff .
    Not the WHOLE staff... Just 3/4ths of them.

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    #42

    Feb 12, 2014, 10:16 AM
    Not the WHOLE staff... Just 3/4ths of them.
    2 people is 3/4ths of them?
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    #43

    Feb 12, 2014, 10:29 AM
    Hello again, Steve:
    2 people is 3/4ths of them?
    Nahhh... Those are just the one's he FIRED. There's about 6 or 7 of his CLOSEST allies who were involved - EVEN if they weren't on his "staff".. Lemme see... We got Wildstein, Agia, Baroni, Kwan, and Sampson just off the top of my head.. They're ALL his people, and they're up to their necks in it. There'll be MORE, too.

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    #44

    Feb 12, 2014, 11:06 AM
    But you aren't the least bit interested in IRS scandals. Benghazi, Fast & Furious an AG that was held in comtempt, a president that has no regard for the law, etc. etc.. Yeah, [sarc]you guys have your priorities right.[/sarc]
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    #45

    Feb 12, 2014, 01:13 PM
    Hello again, Steve:

    Nahhh... I don't care about Christie, and I believe he's INNOCENT until they find the smoking gun. However, in Christie's case, they're LOOKING for the smoking gun. Your crack investigator, Darryl Issa is just running his mouth...

    Although I've said it NUMEROUS times, if my president is a crook, I want him IMPEACHED. All I need is that aforementioned smoking gun. If Darryl Issa is letting you down, he's letting me down too.

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    #46

    Feb 12, 2014, 02:53 PM
    Nahhh... I don't care about Christie, and I believe he's INNOCENT until they find the smoking gun. However, in Christie's case, they're LOOKING for the smoking gun. Your crack investigator, Darryl Issa is just running his mouth...
    In other words, you're all for a media lynching of a Republican but have no tolerance for following procedure, which the regime is continually stonewalling. Where all the IRS documents they refuse to turn over for instance?
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    #47

    Feb 12, 2014, 03:23 PM
    Hello again, Steve:

    Let's review, shall we?? Yes, there's some stonewalling going on.

    When our founders gave congress oversight of the executive, it WASN'T in word only. They have TEETH. Begging ISN'T teeth.. Offering Lois Lerner immunity and FORCING her to testify or go to jail, is TEETH. As long as they BEG, and don't DEMAND/SUBPOENA, then they're DIDDLING you. But, they ain't fooling me.

    Besides, I'm here to complain about politics, not the media.

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    #48

    Feb 12, 2014, 03:30 PM
    They've been subpoenaed so you can drop that line. Should he go arrest the AG, the new treasury secretary, what? Sorry buddy, but you're just blowing smoke, if it really bothers you then demand the regime comply with the subpoenas.
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    #49

    Feb 12, 2014, 05:40 PM
    Issa can't appoint an independent prosecutor . That has to come from the AG .
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    #50

    Feb 12, 2014, 06:38 PM
    Hold him in contempt again. Or get a judge to sign a probable cause affidavit and arrest the sucker for dereliction of duty, and corruption.
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    #51

    Feb 13, 2014, 07:09 AM
    Hello again,

    So, you're telling me that WITHOUT the executive branch's OK, the congress can NOT investigate it?????? Congress has NO teeth??? Is that what you're telling me???? Don't you think THAT should be changed? If MY president can DO anything he wants and congress CAN'T DO anything about it, FIXING that would be HIGH on my priority? How come there aren't any BILLS to fix that??? Seems like fixing that is MUCH more important than fixing Obamacare... No?

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    #52

    Feb 13, 2014, 07:15 AM
    They got Nixon, and Clinton, but you can't get Obama? And you blame Obama?? Typical!!
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    #53

    Feb 13, 2014, 07:25 AM
    So, you're telling me that WITHOUT the executive branch's OK, the congress can NOT investigate it
    They are investigating, the regime is not cooperating and as tom said the AG -aka the regime - has to appoint a special prosecutor so what part of the regime is the one blocking a complete investigation are you not getting? Clinton appointed Kenneth Starr, Nixon had Leon Jaworski after Archibald Cox. Where is Obama's special prosecutor? Hmm?
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    Feb 13, 2014, 07:38 AM
    They got Nixon, and Clinton, but you can't get Obama? And you blame Obama?? Typical!!
    What you forget is that Nixon was compelled to appoint Archibald Cox as an independent prosecutor as quid pro quo for confirmation of AG Elliot Richardson. When Nixon tried to fire Cox after he issued subpoena for the Nixon tapes ,it led to a revolt in the Justice Dept called the Saturday Night Massacre. The tapes were the smoking gun against Nixon and Congress would NOT have gotten access to them without cooperation from the Executive Branch.
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    #55

    Feb 13, 2014, 07:50 AM
    I hope you hold your breathe for cooperation from the two brothers you have been trying to lynch for 5 years. Issa better get more than he's gotten which has been refuted and disputed for accuracy. I know he will keep trying, and the right will keep hollering scandal, impeach, repeal.

    While the subject of this thread will fire his whole office and keep blaming them for his incompetence at best, or abuse and corruption at worst. He better plug the holes in his budget with something besides Sandy relief funds, while he is raising record funds for the RGA... for now.

    What no pictures??
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    #56

    Feb 13, 2014, 08:00 AM
    I hope you hold your breathe for cooperation from the two brothers you have been trying to lynch for 5 years.
    There's nothing racially charged about that statement now is there?

    Get this straight once and for all, we don't give a damn what color they are and if you gave a damn about the country you'd be asking to get to the bottom of this nonsense. Instead you Dems are doubling down and demanding the IRS do more to shut down the other side while excusing their stonewalling the investigation.
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    #57

    Feb 13, 2014, 09:13 AM
    When a bunch of old white guys makes it their agenda to get the black guy, and haven't let up for 5 years, that's the way it looks to all the other black guys who have been watching this for 5 years.

    Just an observation.

    And fact is about the IRS, that scandal is bogus as our side playing the race card, and your side never does. The whole southern strategy has been around for decades, you just shot it full of steroids, more and more every year. I have given links to your sides voter ID scandal many times, still you holler integrity.

    I believe you holler integrity, because you are afraid to be honest and admit to minority suppression. Not calling you racists for your fear, just being increasingly outvoted, and changes are being made. But solving your problem with guns and voting shenanigans instead of facing your fears is not a very good solution. Doesn't work for anybody, not even you, as more people run from you.
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    #58

    Feb 13, 2014, 09:47 AM
    Oh bullsh*t Tal, the only ones who ever talk about his skin color are you libs. You can't let it go and your guys can't stop revealing their own racism, so clean up your own side - and as for people running away that would be YOUR guys running from Obama, I'd say that makes them racists.
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    #59

    Feb 13, 2014, 10:39 AM
    Hello again,

    If the congress CANNOT do its job of oversight, why aren't you DOING anything about that??? If the president can DO whatever he wants, then we're TOAST. I just DON'T believe the founders were SOOOOO neglectful...

    But, IF they were, where is the bill to FIX it? Where???

    So, in the absence of a bill to correct that obvious Constitutional LOOPHOLE, I'm left to believe that the only reason Obama hasn't been FORCED to do anything, is because the investigator is inept and/or there's NO there, there.

    Are you really gonna perpetuate this fantasy that our congress is POWERLESS to STOP a rouge president???? Dudes!!!

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    #60

    Feb 13, 2014, 11:12 AM
    Let's see, how many Dems are going to stop enabling him and encouraging him to be even more rogue and join Republicans in holding him accountable. That's what I thought, none.

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