[talaniman]

Corporations don't care about equal opportunity, just the biggest bang for their buck, and they don't care how creating that revenue stream for themselves affects ordinary people. Government is the only counter balance to that reality. The weaker, or limited the government, the greater that imbalance tips away from the citizens in favor of the corporation.

Give corporations clear rules and certainty, they will invest more, and aggressively if they can make a longer range business plan, instead of short term reactions to changing government policies. Specifically congressional bickering every few months over that policy. We need a 10 year deal, not a 3 month one.

[tomder55]

We can start with the premise of this thred . End the uncertainty of rule by a large bureaucracy that makes law on the fly ,outside of their constitutional mandate.

[excon]

Hello,

We can start with the premise of this thred .

The government IS too big. Let's trim her down RIGHT HERE. I'll put up the DEA. What agency will YOU put up? You HATE the ATF. Why not put them up?

Or, do you just wanna snivel about Obama?

excon

[speechlesstx]

I'll offer the Dept of Education as well. And the EPA.

[speechlesstx]

And the IRS, the National Endowment for the Arts, and probably quite a few more.

[tomder55]

So many agencies within the government to choose from .... But to add to the theme of cutting entire Depts ;let me add .... Commerce and Energy Depts

[talaniman]

For one he didn't say big government doesn't work, he said the old ways of doing government could use some streamlining/consolidation to be more efficient and better serve the public good. That sounds like cutting through redundant red tape and shrinking bureaucracy. But congressional reps will never give up their chairmanships over those bureaucracies. Nor take risks during an ever growing election season. Financing a campaign is a growth industry, that takes away from governing.

Divided government that gets nothing done and finds no consensus forward, isn't effective. 2014 will be interesting in that regard.

[speechlesstx]

So let's add thousands of agents to the IRS to enforce a healthcare law that's taller then me.to streamline government.

[excon]

Hello again,

Hold on, righty's... I started with one agency, and you guys wanna DESTROY America... I can SEE this ain't gonna work.

For starters, the Energy Department manages our nukes, and the IRS collects cash. Those agencies need FIXING, but I ain't gonna indulge your right wing fantasy's. Somebody has to manage the nukes, and somebody needs to collect cash.. If you wanna talk SERIOUSLY, we can talk. But, I'm NOT a Tea Party crazy. I'm a SMALL government liberal.

Back to reality. I'll trade the DEA & the BOP for the Education Department, the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and the Trident submarine.

Deal?? We can do more, but you righty's don't LIKE big, comprehensive deals.

excon

[speechlesstx]

You do realize that it is a private company that manages our nukes when they aren't in the hands of the military. I would know, I live in Nukeville, USA.

[tomder55]

The nukes can be managed by another agency . The DOE didn't come into existence until the Carter Adm. Obviously the nukes were being 'managed ' by a different agency before 1977.

[tomder55]

if you want to eliminate the F-35 ,I'm on board. It's a pig . I'll trade that for keeping the Warthog.

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

I like the Warthog too. Let's curb the NSA back to what the Constitution says, and I'll give you DOE.

[tomder55]

Hello again, tom:

I like the Warthog too. Let's curb the NSA back to what the Constitution says, and I'll give you DOE.

agreed

[excon]

Hello again,

Ain't life with Republicans great??? As long as you CUT, you're their friend... But, we ain't gonna balance stuff with CUTS only.

So, I'll start off gentle. If we remove the caps on Social Security, which protect the wealthy, Social Security will be solvent FOREVER.. Why should HE pay a lower percentage of his income than EVERYBODY else does??? Well, he shouldn't.

Gimme that, and I'll give you a much smaller EPA. But, I ain't gonna let you pollute my country again.

excon

[talaniman]

Why can't rich guys help build roads and bridges they use for all their trucks loaded with profits... I mean... goods to sell?

[speechlesstx]

Why can't rich guys help build roads and bridges they use for all their trucks loaded with profits... I mean... goods to sell?

Take it out of Grayson's pocket, or Kohl's, or especially Kerry - he can afford it after skipping his yacht taxes.

[talaniman]

Okay sounds good to me. That's a great place to start. Let's do it!! YEAH!! You want me to go first?? You got it!!

[tomder55]

Why can't rich guys help build roads and bridges they use for all their trucks loaded with profits... I mean... goods to sell?

They do pay ... What do you think the taxes you/they pay at the gas station is for ?

[speechlesstx]

They do pay ... What do you think the taxes you/they pay at the gas station is for ?

And Dems want to double that. Who do you suppose that might hurt the most?