[tomder55]

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Lets not forget the lessons of big oil, and Exxon Valdez, and the BP gulf spill.

Shiite happens even with regulations in place ?


"If I had a city it would look like Detroit"
(Emperor Zero)

[speechlesstx]

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shiite happens even with regulations in place ?


"If I had a city it would look like Detroit"
(Emperor Zero)

I knew Zero and Detroit had something in common.

Detroit goes bankrupt, largest municipal filing in U.S. history

[talaniman]

Lose more than half your population and see where YOUR city goes. Detroit is the tip off the iceberg for financially strapped cities.

[NeedKarma]

Detroit isn't alone. The U.S. cities that have gone bankrupt, in one map

Lotsa cities in blue states... most are in <gasp> Texas!

[talaniman]

Zoom out on the map and get a clearer picture of the locations.

[speechlesstx]

Detroit isn’t alone. The U.S. cities that have gone bankrupt, in one map

Lotsa cities in blue states...most are in <gasp> Texas!

Not much on geography or math, eh?

Texas is not a blue state and two filings is not "most". One was Grimes county which I know nothing about and the other was Hardeman County Hospital in Quanah. I have an aunt there among the 2,642 residents. Hard to maintain a hospital in an area as sparse as Hardeman county.

[speechlesstx]

So, the "gun show loophole" didn't take root so it's on to plan B, with another myth... the "internet loophole."

New study finds vast online marketplace for guns without background checks

By Philip Rucker, Updated: Monday, August 5, 6:00 AM E-mail the writer

The marketplace for firearms on the Internet, where buyers are not required to undergo background checks, is so vast that advocates for stricter regulations now consider online sales a greater threat than the gun show loophole.

A new study by Third Way , a centrist think tank with close ties to the Obama administration, found that thousands of guns, including so-called assault weapons, are for sale online and that many prospective buyers were shopping online specifically to avoid background checks.

There is no "internet loophole."

Ace sums it up...

Oh, my aching head. If you buy from an FFL or out-of-state seller over the Internet, you have to undergo a background check. If you buy from an in-state private seller, you don't. How f'ing hard is this?

OK you lefty squeal and repealers, over to you.

[NeedKarma]

I can see why you like "Ace". His posts are right up your alley. I see many of your talking points there.

[speechlesstx]

I can see why you like "Ace". His posts are right up your alley. I see many of your talking points there.

Yeah, I love Ace, he doesn't take any crap either but I've cited him what, twice? Here's the thing is he right or wrong?

[talaniman]

He is half right because law abiding citizens will obey the law and abide by rules and procedures. Sadly many do not and they are the very ones who cause the rest of us problems. It's complex and tough to balance freedom, rights, and safety. No doubt.

[speechlesstx]

He is half right because law abiding citizens will obey the law and abide by rules and procedures. Sadly many do not and they are the very ones who cause the rest of us problems. It's complex and tough to balance freedom, rights, and safety. No doubt.

The issue is the truth. There is no "internet loophole."

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

The issue is the truth. There is no "internet loophole.

I'm not going to look, but were you denying that there's a gun SHOW loophole? If you were, then there's probably an internet loophole big enough to drive a truck through..

Excon

[speechlesstx]

There is no gun show loophole, in state private transactions are generally LEGAL.

[talaniman]

Are you ignoring the dishonest criminal element of our society that exploits and MAKES loopholes? Generally legal??

Crazy people don't care about generally legal!

[excon]

Hello again, tal:

We must remember, that right wingers LOVE their guns so much, and HATE background checks so much, that they're willing to let the criminal element get as MANY GUNS as they WANT... And THEY WANT PLENTY!

Why right wingers twist themselves into knots to support them, is a mystery for all time.

excon

[NeedKarma]

I don't understand: what's preventing people from frequenting buy/sell firearms websites/forums and exchanging guns for money?

[speechlesstx]

Are you ignoring the dishonest criminal element of our society that exploits and MAKES loopholes? Generally legal??

Crazy people don't care about generally legal!
Today 09:56 AM

Crazy criminals don't care about legality at all.

You aren't going after the "dishonest criminal element", you're trying to make it harder for honest citizens to exercise their constitutional rights and the anti-gun zealots are lying about it with Obama as the liar-in-chief. You've fear mongered about a mythical "gun show loophole" for years and now your side is squealing about a mythical "internet loophole".

We must remember, that right wingers LOVE their guns so much, and HATE background checks so much, that they're willing to let the criminal element get as MANY GUNS as they WANT... And THEY WANT PLENTY!

Why right wingers twist themselves into knots to support them, is a mystery for all time.

You wingers love killing babies so much you can't even support an abortion ban after 20 weeks or clean, regulated clinics for the poor women you send there. Talk about getting twisted into knots...

If you want to have an honest discussion let's have an honest discussion, but stop making sh*t up to try and scare people into thinking you can just go to eBay and buy bazookas all day without a background check.

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

There's no voter fraud, except the cops that cheated HERE.. Trap laws are passed for the health of women, and you believe exconvicts like ME would rather shop in the hood for a gun..

Want to hear another one? Bwa, ha ha ha ha...

excon

[speechlesstx]

A "loophole" is an ambiguity or omission that allows you to legally evade the law. There are no "loopholes" in the law, only in your mind. But go ahead, show us how easy it is for you to buy a bazooka on the internet.

[Tuttyd]

Yeah, I love Ace, he doesn't take any crap either but I've cited him what, twice? Here's the thing is he right or wrong?

Probably right the second time. I pointed pout where he was wrong the first time.