[speechlesstx]

Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Obama's lack of leadership

Originally Posted by speechlesstx
The man wants to be king.

So which one is it?

There is no contradiction. A leader leads, a king decrees.

[excon]

Why are all your marbles on abortion? Are you kidding me?

Hello again, Steve:

I got some marbles on the drug war too, you know.

Look. I don't know WHY you think right wingers WOULDN'T overturn Wade IF they could.. YOU certainly would. A Constitutional challenge won't come through the presidency. It won't come through the legislature.. They can all throw up their hands and claim innocence. It'll come from a simple appeal in a lower court that works its way to the Supreme Court... And, when it gets there, you're telling me that 6 right wing Supreme Court Justices will vote to UPHOLD Roe??

Please, please send me some of that dope you're smoking...

Yes, a 6 person right wing court will do a lot of damage BESIDES women's issues. But, that's enough for now.

excon

[smoothy]

Hello again, Steve:

I got some marbles on the drug war too, ya know.

Look. I dunno WHY you think right wingers WOULDN'T overturn Wade IF they could.. YOU certainly would. A Constitutional challenge won't come through the presidency. It won't come through the legislature.. They can all throw up their hands and claim innocence. It'll come from a simple appeal in a lower court that works its way to the Supreme Court... And, when it gets there, you're telling me that 6 right wing Supreme Court Justices will vote to UPHOLD Roe???

Please, please send me some of that dope you're smoking...

Yes, a 6 person right wing court will do a lot of damage BESIDES women's issues. But, that's enough for now.

excon

Far less damage than a 6 persom left wing court would do... where the constitution and bill or Rights would be disposed of in the sppirit of their activist oppression..

[excon]

Far less damage than a 6 persom left wing court would do....

Hello again, smoothy:

And, that's WHY I concentrate on the court... They'll have MUCH more power than either president will, and for a whole lot longer too.

excon

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, Steve:

I got some marbles on the drug war too, you know.

Look. I don't know WHY you think right wingers WOULDN'T overturn Wade IF they could.. YOU certainly would.. .

Please, please send me some of that dope you're smoking...

Like I said, Ryan left it up to the states. I believe it's Obama that's shutting down dispensaries.

Otherwise, you don't know me very well in spite of years of discussions on this. I would not try to overturn Roe, I think it would be a wasted effort. I would much rather just see to it that taxpayers aren't paying for abortions, that Planned Parenthood and their cohorts play by the rules without subverting parents wishes, and do all I could to persuade women to have their baby and if needed assist them during their pregnancy AND after birth and actually accomplish what PP feigns doing, make abortion rare.

I don't know how anyone could argue with that and then we could end this silly war.

Yes, a 6 person right wing court will do a lot of damage BESIDES women's issues. But, that's enough for now.

Sigh... you really think we want them barefoot, pregnant and cooking our meals and cleaning house and walking 3 steps behind us? I believe that's the Islamist view of women, not ours.

[excon]

Like I said, Ryan left it up to the states. I believe it's Obama that's shutting down dispensaries.

Hello again, Steve:

Ryan changed his mind after he got a call from Romney.. Now, it's a gateway drug and will NEVER be legal... At least for the moment...

I'm GLAD to see that you're a reasonable right wing fellow... But, you'll forgive me for NOT thinking the same of your fellow right wingers...

excon

[speechlesstx]

Ryan didn't change his mind, he said before and he said after that his personal position was not to legalize it, just like Obama's personal belief is he is against gay marriage. He never retracted his let the states decide portion that I'm aware of, just re-emphasized the personal preference he already stated.

You might want to hold off on that landslide thing, Romney is up by 7 on the economy and 1 overall according to today's daily Rassmussen. There's a ways to go yet and if this Islamist eruption things keeps on, Barack Carter who skipped his post-assassination intel briefing to go have some Vegas fundraising fun is in trouble.

[excon]

Hello again,

UPDATE... Obama is winning Ohio, Virginia, AND Florida..

Obama in a LANDSLIDE.

excon

PS> Here's the rub... Those state are run by Republican governors, and their economies are doing very well... Obama is getting the credit... Whoda thunk THAT?

[excon]

Ryan didn't change his mind,

Hello again, Steve:

He flip flopped on his POSITION. THAT'S what counts. Who cares what's in his little mind?

First off, it was up to the STATES... Then it wasn't... Voters noticed that even if you didn't.

excon

[speechlesstx]

He said he believes it shouldn't be legal twice, before and after the states rights comment. That's not a flip flop.

Regardless, don't get too excited over your polls today, they don't reflect the last few days. And if there's any truth to the report that we had credible info on the Libya assault 48 hours prior and didn't act on it, that's another bump in the road. If the media actually reports on it that is.

Not to mention the EPA email to celebrate Hispanic Heritage month bearing a pic of that good ol' Marxist that Cuban-Americans love, Che Guevara.

Obama's having a rough week.

[smoothy]

I guess you could find a poll that has a majority of people believing in Alien abductions... if you skew the people polled and what and how they are asked far enough.

[speechlesstx]

Obama's still having a rough time, his clueless tools are attacking Romney's credibility via the world's largest propaganda machine, the official Chinese news agency Xinhua.

As one headline put it, "Team Obama brings you all the news Communist China sees fit to print."

And you want these dufuses to remain in power? Or is it dufi?

[tomder55]

Hard to believe there is a larger propaganda machine than al-AP . Today it was revealed that they disclosed the name of the man who made that silly video trailer about Mohammed ;and get this... they got that info from a "source " in the Justice Dept. Best guess is that the Holder Gang is investigating to see if the guy committed a crime by making a YouTube video trailer . Expect him to soon get the Theo VanGogh treatment.

[speechlesstx]

True, tom, al-AP may have them beat.

More good news for Obama, we've been downgraded - again.

[talaniman]

The fed wouldn't have to act if the congress had been doing their job instead of playing politics for 4 years.

S&P Downgrades US Credit Rating | Care2 Causes

In the announcement S&P laid out blame squarely on the dysfunction in Washington, paying specific attention to the use of the debt ceiling as a partisan bargaining chip.

The U.S. long-term credit forecast was also negative, but with one bright spot. Let the Bush tax cuts lapse, the report said, and the debt dynamics should change enough to stabilize the long-term rate at AA+.

Raising interest rates on struggling consumers and state and local governments at the same time drastic programmatic funding cuts take place is precisely the thing to drive this country back into a deep recession. Which, given the statements by Republican leadership, looks more and more intentional.


Read more: S&P Downgrades US Credit Rating | Care2 Causes

That was a year ago,and what's been done since? Abortion bills and jaw jacking. So now we have a fast approaching fiscal cliff, so no wonder we get downgraded yet again. What would you expect when nothing was done after the first down grade?

[excon]

More good news for Obama, we've been downgraded - again.

Hello again, Steve:

I got a pimple on my a$$. That damn Romney!

excon

[tomder55]

Hello again, Steve:

I got a pimple on my a$$. That damn Romney!

excon

Buy gold... the price is about to 'inflate' big time. And take advantage of every other commodity bubble like oil.

[speechlesstx]

The fed wouldn't have to act if the congress had been doing their job instead of playing politics for 4 years.

S&P Downgrades US Credit Rating | Care2 Causes



That was a year ago,and whats been done since? Abortion bills and jaw jacking. So now we have a fast approaching fiscal cliff, so no wonder we get downgraded yet again. What would you expect when nothing was done after the first down grade?

I don't put much stock in what Care2 thinks. You do know Obama had the house and Senate for two of those four years, and the Democrat-controlled Senate hasn't even bothered to think about a budget for tree of those four years. Yeah, it's all Republican's fault. Lol.

[excon]

You do know Obama had the house and Senate for two of those four years,

Hello again, Steve:

I've been hearing that bunk from your side for years... It's time to put an end to it... You APPEAR to say that since Obama CONTROLLED the government, he could have done ANYTHING he pleased. But, because things are still broken, it's obviously his fault.

Your assertion is just not true. Here's what Republican Tom Coburn says about it.

A hold may be placed for any reason and can be lifted by a Senator at any time. A Senator may place a hold simply to review a bill, to negotiate changes to the bill, or to kill the bill. A bill can be held for as long as the Senator who objects to the bill wishes to block its consideration.

Now you know.

Excon

[paraclete]

Why don't you put the blame where it lies Benanke, it would be easier for the US to assume all the sub prime debt than stuff around this way. In order for money to flow someone has to want to borrow and spend, this latest attempt is putting faith in an investment led recovery, good luck with that in an economy that has excess capacity. What he is doing is devaluing the dollar so US goods will become as cheap as China's, you know what goes with that? Chinese wages, conditions like those in Pakistan where hundreds died in a factory fire, the US is rapidly becoming a fourth world country.

I'll let you into a secret, I won't be buying US goods because they are cheap, I will buy locally produced goods