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    #41

    Sep 2, 2012, 08:43 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Inso The Jester View Post
    people who want revenge on the law
    if i got known on the internet fighting the law with my mind instead of my fists i might get killed
    Isn't the law part of the corrupt government?

    How can you be on the Internet? (In some countries lately, the Internet and smartphones have been a big help to rebels to coordinate their activities.)
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    #42

    Sep 2, 2012, 08:45 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Inso The Jester View Post
    i dont get what you are trying to say

    You are afraid of something - the Government, the laws, the Police - in your Country but you are on the Internet posting your beliefs.

    That's what I'm trying to say.

    And this makes no sense at all: "people who want revenge on the law - if i got known on the internet fighting the law with my mind instead of my fists i might get killed"

    Do you think the Government looks for names or traces down which computers are being used, which "Provider" addresses are being used?
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    #43

    Sep 2, 2012, 08:56 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    But your other post (about being an anarchist) seems to state you are concerned about corruption, corrupted laws: "im a person that will never be ruled by someone who kills his own people daily just for fun and money; i will never accept to be used by bad laws; police here rob you in the street; i am a person that wishes to live in peace under a good rule; im sure you have heard of the arab spring; who can see his own brothers die on the battlefeild and stay quiet; im sure you would do the same as i am doing now; what do you know about being put in jail for nothing; and there is no proof that you did it at all; what right does a policeman have to break down the door and order money?? well you want to know me?; im a person that wants to live safely in my home; im a person that wants to live like other people in other countries; tell me who wouldnt be against a bad ruler? you would never understand how it feels; now if u had a bad gov would you do what im doing now or not?"

    If that is the case I cannot believe you are on the Internet in "your Country," unconcerned. In many ways you sound like a disgruntled student, somehow who incites other people to act.
    "i am a person that wishes to live in peace under a good rule"
    Didn't you get that part? Tell me since when violence has been the road to peace
    I only fight for self defense (I hardly can anymore) I try to use my mind to solve problems not my hands
    And here those rebel people would kill me if I don't go fight with them which I am and they can't realize that minds are way more powerful than fists
    And no I'm in a country nearby I got moved to another country after getting seriously injured
    And sadly the war and corrupted laws are very close to us and this country now is being effected
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    #44

    Sep 2, 2012, 08:57 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    You are afraid of something - the Government, the laws, the Police - in your Country but you are on the Internet posting your beliefs.

    That's what I'm trying to say.

    And this makes no sense at all: "people who want revenge on the law - if i got known on the internet fighting the law with my mind instead of my fists i might get killed"

    Do you think the Government looks for names or traces down which computers are being used, which "Provider" addresses are being used?
    Nope that's why I don't fear the laws I fear the people
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    #45

    Sep 2, 2012, 08:59 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Inso The Jester View Post
    "i am a person that wishes to live in peace under a good rule"
    didn't you get that part? tell me since when violence has been the road to peace
    i only fight for self defense (i hardly can anymore) i try to use my mind to solve problems not my hands
    and here those rebel people would kill me if i don't go fight with them which i am and they can't realize that minds are way more powerful than fists
    and no im in a country nearby i got moved to another country after getting seriously injured
    and sadly the war and corrupted laws are very close to us and this country now is being effected

    Once again you have changed the subject in midstream. Your comment was about laws. I quoted what you said about laws.

    You then came back with this post about "tell you when violence has been the road to peace."

    First, don't ask me questions. I'm not the one opening threads. You are.

    Second - when you don't have an answer you switch topics or completely ignore the question, no matter how many times it's asked.

    I am seeing a lot of theories here - nothing but textbook theories.

    Is this an example of how you are fighting corruption with your mind?

    Your signature says it all: "im a person that never felt love from anyone at all!! even my own parents never gave me anything but hatred all my life the people i loved and i thought loved me died or hurt me - i go by inso the jester: i = irritated; n= negative; s= soulless; o= object"
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    #46

    Sep 2, 2012, 08:59 AM
    I'm sorry but I have to leave for work now
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    #47

    Sep 2, 2012, 09:01 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    Once again you have changed the subject in midstream. Your comment was about laws. I quoted what you said about laws.

    You then came back with this post about "tell you when violence has been the road to peace."

    First, don't ask me questions. I'm not the one opening threads. You are.

    Second - when you don't have an answer you switch topics or completely ignore the question, no matter how many times it's asked.

    I am seeing a lot of theories here - nothing but textbook theories.

    Is this an example of how you are fighting corruption with your mind?
    To be honest most of the time I misunderstand your questions so I answer with what I understood
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    #48

    Sep 2, 2012, 12:39 PM
    What questions do you not understand?
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    #49

    Sep 2, 2012, 12:51 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Enigma1999 View Post
    What questions do you not understand?
    Here I didn't get what she said 100%

    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    But your other post (about being an anarchist) seems to state you are concerned about corruption, corrupted laws: "im a person that will never be ruled by someone who kills his own people daily just for fun and money; i will never accept to be used by bad laws; police here rob you in the street; i am a person that wishes to live in peace under a good rule; im sure you have heard of the arab spring; who can see his own brothers die on the battlefeild and stay quiet; im sure you would do the same as i am doing now; what do you know about being put in jail for nothing; and there is no proof that you did it at all; what right does a policeman have to break down the door and order money?? well you want to know me?; im a person that wants to live safely in my home; im a person that wants to live like other people in other countries; tell me who wouldnt be against a bad ruler? you would never understand how it feels; now if u had a bad gov would you do what im doing now or not?"

    If that is the case I cannot believe you are on the Internet in "your Country," unconcerned. In many ways you sound like a disgruntled student, somehow who incites other people to act.
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    #50

    Sep 2, 2012, 01:51 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Inso The Jester View Post
    here i didn't get what she said 100%
    You don’t understand what said?

    Okay - from the top:

    “Your other post (about being an anarchist)” - you posted at least once before so it’s your other post - (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-...ce-698171.html) - and said you are an anarchist.

    “... seems to state you are concerned about corruption, corrupted laws:” You said (in the post about being an anarchist) about LAWS that you “... a person that will never be ruled by someone who kills his own people daily just for fun and money; I will never accept to be used by bad laws; ...” You also said about CORRUPTION (in the post about being an anarchist): “police here rob you in the street;... what right does a policeman have to break down the door and order money? “

    You then questioned me (in the post about being an anarchist), apparently concerning both LAWS and CORRUPTION: “well you want to know me?; I'm a person that wants to live safely in my home; I'm a person that wants to live like other people in other countries; tell me who wouldn't be against a bad ruler? You would never understand how it feels; now if you had a bad gov would you do what I'm doing now or not?" Those are questions you asked me.

    I asked you not to ask me questions about what I would do because I’m not here seeking advice, I have no idea where you are so I have no idea what I’d do, and when you can’t have a conversation that makes sense from you side you switch to another topic. In this case, that switch appears to involve me defending myself.

    Concerning what I said about the Internet (“If that is the case I cannot believe you are on the Internet in "your Country," unconcerned”) it is difficult to believe that you are in some way being hunted by the Government and the Police but are using the Internet to post information about that very Government and Police. Assuming the Government (and Police) are as corrupt as you say they are, you don’t think someone is tracking you on the Internet?

    And concerning this - “ In many ways you sound like a disgruntled student, somehow who incites other people to act. - you sound like someone who stands on the sidelines, a student, and incites other people to act. You address and explain nothing, continue on with veiled references about nothing and when asked a direct question attempt to turn the “conversation” in another direction.

    Do you understand now?
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    #51

    Sep 2, 2012, 01:52 PM
    Basically that you are trying to provoke people. She also quoted your words, which is what you said, right?

    I am having a hard time believing that you are only 16. You mention working... what do you do?

    It's also hard to believe that you had a long term relationship at your age. Your threads seem to clash with one another. Doesn't quite add up.
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    #52

    Sep 2, 2012, 01:55 PM
    On one of your other threads (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/teens/...ip-698286.html you “recently got out of a relationship with a really nice girl we have been together for more than 5 years
    i gave up everything for her i quit my job my money i gave up my dream my time just to see her smile ...” You have also posted you are 16 and cannot find work. You either were in a relationship from the time you were 11 and you gave up your job OR your life is as dismal you post here.

    I’m beginning to think you don’t know your own circumstances in life.
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    #53

    Sep 2, 2012, 02:03 PM
    Perhaps a troll?
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    #54

    Sep 2, 2012, 04:38 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Enigma1999 View Post
    Perhaps a troll?

    I think it's a student, probably in the middle east judging by the phrasing and grammar, practicing his English.

    Some parts of the story simply don't make sense.
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    #55

    Sep 2, 2012, 06:39 PM
    I think he is a bored teen.
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    #56

    Sep 2, 2012, 06:48 PM
    I think I am too willing to give the benefit of the doubt, even though I didn't for a second think he was 16. Give me time I'm learning.
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    #57

    Sep 2, 2012, 06:50 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by LadySam View Post
    I think I am too willing to give the benefit of the doubt, even though I didn't for a second think he was 16. Give me time I'm learning.

    Until someone rings the final bell there is no way to know what the situation is.
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    #58

    Sep 2, 2012, 06:53 PM
    I've always thought he was a bored teen. His story changes with every post and just does not make sense half the time. I agree with JudyKay, he is probably from another country.
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    Sep 2, 2012, 07:38 PM
    I'm confused too. In your other thread you stated you just got out of a serious relationship with your girlfriend. A relationship that lasted 5 years. So you started a serious relationship at the age of 11? Your parents have been deceased for 7 years, and you've been supporting yourself every since, living on your own? You would have been 9. You expect us to believe that you got a job, a place to live on your own at the age of 9, and then 2 years later started dating seriously?

    Sorry, but I'm not buying it. If you want to lie to us then at least keep your lies in order, we're not that easily fooled. Your lies will have to get a lot better if you want us to start believing you. At least make it realistic.
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    Sep 2, 2012, 07:51 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by LadySam View Post
    I think I am too willing to give the benefit of the doubt, even though I didn't for a second think he was 16. Give me time I'm learning.
    Ladysam, I too was a lot like you when I first started amhd... I gave people the benefit of doubt... quite a bit. However, I, along with most have been bamboozled time and time again.

    Jester, Alty is right! Too many inconsistencies here... I believe that you may be a kid who strives for attention. Now... I could be wrong. I have been in the past, and my ex is proof of that. So... prove me wrong.

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