[Wondergirl]

The question is why would the President agree to it knowing the history of Ayers ? Answer Because he "owes " him.

Not true. You're jumping to conclusions. Obama was a State Senator, and this was in Hyde Park. Do you know anything about Hyde Park?

[tomder55]

It doesn't matter where it took place. Obama had a long relationship with Ayers dating back to his Columbia U days (or possibly even in his Occidental College days although the President and his handlers have done a fairly good job scrubbing the public record of those years ) .

[Wondergirl]

It doesn't matter where it took place.

Of course it does! I guess I will break for lunch.

Ayers grew up in Glen Ellyn, a suburb close enough I could spit into from my front porch. I'm sure you could make something of that too.

[Wondergirl]

Obama had a long relationship with Ayers dating back to his Columbia U days

I missed this tidbit. How did they know each other in such a huge college?

Lunchtime. Bye for now.

[NeedKarma]

Here we can put this thread to rest now:
Fact Check: Is Obama 'palling around with terrorists'? – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

The extent of Obama's relationship with Ayers came up during the Democratic presidential primaries earlier this year, and Obama explained it by saying, "This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood ... the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago - when I was 8 years old - somehow reflects on me and my values doesn't make much sense."

Verdict: False. There is no indication that Ayers and Obama are now "palling around," or that they have had an ongoing relationship in the past three years. Also, there is nothing to suggest that Ayers is now involved in terrorist activity or that other Obama associates are.

[tomder55]

Fill in the blanks :

Somewhere between 1981-1983 William Ayers and Barack Obama meet at Columbia?

1987 William Ayers and Barack Obama work together in Chicago to reform public schools (Alliance for Better Chicago Schools )

1988 Ayers solicits Khalid Al-Mansour to raise money for Obama's Harvard law School education (confirmed by Sutton)

1989 Tom Ayers and William Ayers get Obama a summer job at Sidley & Austin (where he meets Michelle Obama); Ayers' wife Bernadine Dohrn also worked at Sidley at about the same time as Barack and Michelle.

1993 Ayers places Obama on Woods Foundation

1995 Ayers makes Obama Chairman of Annenberg Challenge

1995 Ayers hosts Obama's political debut (Obama falsely claims this is when he met Ayers).

[speechlesstx]

AND that was because they lived in the same neighborhood and not because they were best friends. Do you know all your neighbors intimately? I don't even know the people on my own block!

Did I say anything about them being best friends? No I did not, but it was on Huffpo where a former CIA and State Dept official said Ayers would be "Obama's Willie Horton" due to their longstanding ties (Note, he also said Ayers is "normally described as a distinguished education professor" which also sounds like an embrace to me).

William Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist, though he is normally described as a distinguished education professor. One does not necessarily rule out the other, but he himself acknowledges planting bombs in U.S. Federal buildings. There is now undeniable proof of a longstanding relationship between Barack Obama and William Ayers. We are not talking about two guys who just happened to bump into one another on the street. We are not talking about a secret admirer (Ayers) who quietly sent $200 to an aspiring politician.

No, we are talking about William Ayers hosting a fundraiser for Barack Obama and actively working with him to secure Barack's first electoral victory in Illinois. But wait, there is more. Barack and Ayers also served on the board of the Woods Fund. And they worked together to give money to some other folks, including a group with ties to the PLO.

What makes Ayers so toxic is his own written record equating U.S. Marines with terrorists. Look at the beating that John Kerry took for tossing his medals over the White House fence. Ayers did not toss medals, he threw bombs. Real ones. Bombs that exploded.

Do you think that Republicans will ignore Obama's ties to Ayers? The two were serving on the same board in 2002. We are talking less than six years ago and the record will come out showing some questionable grants by these two characters. William Ayers, in the age of terrorism, will be Barack Obama's Willie Horton.

[NeedKarma]

Did I say anything about them being best friends?

No, tom did.

[Wondergirl]

Somewhere between 1981-1983 William Ayers and Barack Obama meet at Columbia?

Big school, but very possible. If Ayers had been a prof at my college, I would have know about it and would have gone to a tea in order to meet him, especially if I was interested in any kind of political or educational reform. So we meet. So what?

1995 Ayers hosts Obama's political debut (Obama falsely claims this is when he met Ayers).

Is there documentation for this? (And it wasn't his political debut, by the way.)

[excon]

Is there documentation for this?

Hello WG:

What difference does it make?? Obama is EITHER a Muslim Terrorist planted here when he was a baby, so that he could grow up, get elected president, and turn us over to the Islamists... OR he is a left wing radical hippie bent on Socialism and Marxism for the US.

I suppose he could be BOTH, don't you?

excon

[Wondergirl]

I suppose he could be BOTH, don't you?

Hello, excon:

He's sure darn cute though.

[speechlesstx]

What difference does it make??? Obama is EITHER a Muslim Terrorist planted here when he was a baby, so that he could grow up, get elected president, and turn us over to the Islamists... OR he is a left wing radical hippie bent on Socialism and Marxism for the US.

I suppose he could be BOTH, don't you?

I was a hippie, I knew plenty of hippies, and trust me, Obama is no hippie. I do think I've found the perfect job for him though, as the UN alien ambassador.

[tomder55]

I was a hippie, I knew plenty of hippies, and trust me, Obama is no hippie. I do think I've found the perfect job for him though, as the UN alien ambassador.

What ? Dennis Kucinich wasn't available ?

[speechlesstx]

What ? Dennis Kucinich wasn't available ?

I think Kucinich IS an alien... or at least his wife.