[Akoue]

God provided the Holy Spirit, and multiple different books of the Holy Scripture which was inspired by the Holy Spirit.

Do you think that we need opinions of men in addition to God?

You are an infallible interpreter?

[Tj3]

You are an infallible interpreter?

How the heck could you possibly mis-represent anything that I said to come to such an off the wall conclusion. NO MAN according to scripture is an infallible interpreter, not even you or your denomination's pope.

[Tj3]

You dodged a bullet when the thread closed.

What? You mean that you really have a strategy that you use in thread after thread to bore people to death by harassing them with the same question hundreds of times after they answer?

Strange way to proceed if you are really here to have straightforward honest discussions.

[Akoue]

How the heck could you possibly mis-represent anything that I said to come to such an off the wall conclusion. NO MAN according to scripture is an infallible interpreter, not even you or your denomination's pope.

So, then, you err in your interpretation of Scripture?

[sndbay]

But, how do you know?

JoeT

Why does one doubt?

Matthew 28:17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.

Augustine was addressing that issue, that validating authority is the Catholic Church.

The scripture is Jesus talking, I don't question Christ or His authority. Why would the Catholic Church assume they are the authority? Jesus told His disciples, and they are the witness to what is written. Everything was to be done as Christ commanded them.

How do I discern that your Holy Spirit is the real McCoy? I can't look inside you and make that discernment.

My Holy Spirit? The Word clearly shows evidence of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit..ONE Commandment #1 none other! And we are to discern by all that is done and by what is spoken in those that teach us. Does the Catholic Church follow by all that Christ has commanded?

So, how do I authenticate your words?

Did I contradict The Words which Christ spoke. Is it true that The Word was made Flesh? Was Christ given all authority of heaven and earth?

Who or what is the authority, your will?

Being Accountable to my God given free will. To follow Christ and walk as one with Him doing the Will of The Father. All soul belong to God, we are children of God when we follow Him.

Your interpretation of Scripture? That's my point, without the Catholic Church we are without an authority.

Joe you were given free will to follow God. To trust in all that is written. To hear Christ and know that He has all authority, and power. It is written that we have the ensample, that means the mold in which to follow. (Phil 3:11) And should we need help God is there to reveal, and a promise never to forsake us.

I might point out, without the Catholic Church you wouldn't have a bibile.

Rebuke that idea Joe... Scripture tells us clearly who brought us the bible.

My faith in in Christ.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

[Tj3]

So, then, you err in your interpretation of Scripture?

I don't interpret scripture - do you?

[JoeT777]

What? You mean that you really have a strategy that you use in thread after thread to bore people to death by harassing them with the same question hundreds of times after they answer?

Strange way to proceed if you are really here to have straightforward honest discussions.

I'd like to know who validates your interpretations of Scripture. As I recall you once stated that scripture interprets scripture, where is this written?

JoeT

[Akoue]

I don't interpret scripture

So I'm to take your word for it?

[Tj3]

I'd like to know who validates your interpretations of Scripture. As I recall you once stated that scripture interprets scripture, where is this written?

Let start by asking who is qualified to interpret scripture:

2 Peter 1:20-21
20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, 21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
NKJV

So the Holy Spirit is the interpreter, and 1 Cor 4:6 tells us not to go beyond what is written. Where is the written word of the Holy Spirit?

[Tj3]

So I'm to take your word for it?

I couldn't care less if you do or not. I seek God's approval not yours. You seem to be somewhat obsessed with me. Why don't you concern yourself more with what God says in His word?

[Akoue]

I don't interpret scripture - do you?

Do you err in your understanding of Scripture?

[Tj3]

Do you err in your understanding of Scripture?

No man is perfect, not even you or your pope. It does not matter because I submit myself and my beliefs to God's word and God promised to guide me into all truth. You depend upon opinions of the leaders of your church.

Once again, You seem to be somewhat obsessed with me. Why don't you concern yourself more with what God says in His word?

[Akoue]

So the Holy Spirit is the interpreter,

The same Holy Spirit that descended on Peter and the other Apostles in tongues of fire at Pentecost?

and 1 Cor 4:6 tells us not to go beyond what is written. Where is the written word of the Holy Spirit?

Where is it written? You just said we're not to go beyond what is written. Please explain.

[Akoue]

No man is perfect

So you err in your understanding of Scripture?

[Tj3]

So you err in your understanding of Scripture?

Answered.

[Akoue]

Answered.

My question: Do you err in your understanding of Scripture?

Your answer: No man is perfect.

My question: So you err in your understanding of Scripture?

Your answer: Answered.

Please clarify: Yes or No?

[JoeT777]

Let start off by asking who is qualified to interpret scripture:

2 Peter 1:20-21
20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, 21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
NKJV

So the Holy Spirit is the interpreter, and 1 Cor 4:6 tells us not to go beyond what is written. Where is the written word of the Holy Spirit?

Yes this proves my point; there is an authority over scripture. In verse 20 we see that scripture isn’t open to private interpretation. And in 1 Cor 4:5 ff we see that there is no written word of the Holy Spirit. This is quite different then what you’ve said in the past. In the past insisted that the indwelling Spirit interpreted scripture for you, thus scripture interpreted scripture. Maybe you could restate you stance once more.

But there is even more conflict with the above; when the second book of Peter was written, the new testament hadn’t been written. So which scripture are we talking about?

JoeT

[Tj3]

My question: Do you err in your understanding of Scripture?

Your answer: No man is perfect.

My question: So you err in your understanding of Scripture?

Your answer: Answered.

Please clarify: Yes or No?

Answered. Do you harass everyone after they answer questions, or just those who don't agree with you? Were you one of those children who never stopped saying "are we there yet?..." or continually demanding everyone after your parents told you "no" but you refused to accept it because you didn't like it?

Do you know how to actually discuss something in a respectful intelligent manner?

[Fr_Chuck]

This is for questions and answers not fighting and insulting back and forth,
If some of you wish to argue this is not the place for it.

This is getting old.

Closed