[tomder55]

Inter-solar research and discovery will increase. But inter-galaxtic? I doubt that strongly !
Too expensive in many respects, too difficult, too far, and too many problems with the consequences of relativity.

That's the way I see it. Actually I have my doubts about human travel of the solar system . We have not really conquered the challenges of the effect of weightlessness in low earth orbit. We are making great strides in robotics ;but that won't find us another place to inhabit when the next killer rock collides with the earth.

Your comments about relativity is the reason that I doubt we have been visited from other galactic travellers . If they had indeed beaten the challenges then why would they keep it secret ? Why is it that only people South of the Mason-Dixon line or west of the Mississippi River living in trailers ever see them ?

As far as available energy and raw material shortages ;I still have a strong belief in human adaptability ;and ingenuity .

[N0help4u]

So you want a religious point of view on the end times? I take it that is what you are looking for as to your reply to Tomder.

People always say don't listen to anybody that predicts the end times because it has been predicted many times over the years and we have already had everything from famine and earthquakes to Hitler that are claimed as the end times int the Bible. Besides the Bible says no man can know the day or the hour.


OKAY BUT
The Bible DOES say we WILL know THE season, basically meaning the generation.
To me that means that the generation in the end times will KNOW not just guess as other generations have done
The Bible also DOES say that there will be famines and earthquakes and Hilter types throughout the centuries

BUT the difference is the timing
Not all these things have lined up according to the way the Bible says before in history
Before the 1948 had not happened and therefore the end times could not be before 1948

The Bible says that Israel would again become a nation and the fig tree would bloom before the end times. That was 1948.

The Bible says that not only will there be famine and earthquakes and other weather conditions in the end times but that they will increase with severity and frequency and in place that have never experienced them before.

Since you don't take to heart what the Bible says in any way of believing it I don't see any reason to go into the rest of the end times but NO according to Bible prophesy you have a very good chance of dying of old age Cred0.
We have at least over a decade to two or more to go.

[Credendovidis]

So you want a religious point of view on the end times?

I asked in my topic starter : "I know that from the science side they ensure us that there is no real danger. But how do you approach such a possible potential danger for all life on earth from a religious point of view? Any comments are welcome !"

So I did not ask for a religious point of view on the end (of) times, but for how you approach such a possible potential danger for all life on earth by Cern starting up it's hadron collider (and many other dangerous experiments by other scientists) from a religious point of view.

:rolleyes:

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[N0help4u]

And my explanation was that from ''a religious point of view'' it ain't going to happen.
Man is using much more sneaky deceptive forms to destroy the earth and the population. IF by the time they would do the CERN it is going to be the very end Biblically anyway and they will already have the population down to under 2/3rds of what it is. IF they do not use any thing like CERN they will just continuing destroying the earth and population as they are already.

[Capuchin]

And my explanation was that from ''a religious point of view'' it ain't gonna happen.
Man is using much more sneaky deceptive forms to destroy the earth and the population. IF by the time they would do the CERN it is going to be the very end Biblically anyway and they will already have the population down to under 2/3rds of what it is. IF they do not use any thing like CERN they will just continuing destroying the earth and population as they are already.

I think you mean the LHC, CERN is an organization established in 1954 to provide for high energy physics research.

[N0help4u]

Okay I probably do I am not good at keeping some things straight like numbers or letters
Like LHC or CERN.
Thanks :D

[Alty]

Hi everyone. A bit off topic here. There is a book that reminds me of what you all are talking about. If memory services CERN is discussed in the book.

Here's the book title if anyone is interested, it's a wonderful read, a battle between religion and science. Of course it's fiction, but still...

Angels & Demons by Dan Brown.

Sorry, just thought I'd let you all know, back to the topic. :)

[Credendovidis]

It seems more that you have no idea what Cern is really doing, and that you have little understanding of the dangers science research is forcing upon 6 Billion+ people day after day.

:)

[asking]

It seems more that you have no idea what Cern is really doing, and that you have little understanding of the dangers science research is forcing upon 6 Billion+ people day after day.

:)

Aack! What a trouble maker! But you do make a case for keeping an eye on what science is discovering and trying to do. I am a big fan of the idea of an enlightened citizenry...

[Credendovidis]

... But you do make a case for keeping an eye on what science is discovering and trying to do. I am a big fan of the idea of an enlightened citizenry...

Actually I do not have so much problems with dangerous research itself (like medical/military smallpox, ebola, and nervegas, like nuclear and extreme high energy for fundamental physics) , but more with the poor communication and information to the general public of the danger involved in these forms of research. Most people have no idea what is going on, and what dangers to them are involved.

I do not really expect on 10 September 2008 to be united with all of you in one single small black hole. But it seems to me to be preferably if more people knew what went on around them.

:)

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[N0help4u]

It seems more that you have no idea what Cern is really doing, and that you have little understanding of the dangers science research is forcing upon 6 Billion+ people day after day.

:)

I DO see the immediate danger that many people with power ARE doing NOW to people that is causing billions to die NOW and people do not even realize what is going on!

MY cousin was an innocent victim out of hundreds and thousands just two weeks ago today.

[Alty]

NoHelp, I'm so sorry to hear about your cousin, my heart goes out to you and your family.

[Credendovidis]

I DO see the immediate danger that many people with power ARE doing NOW to people that is causing billions to die NOW and people do not even realize what is going on!
MY cousin was an innocent victim out of hundreds and thousands just two weeks ago today.

I do not see that concern in your earlier posts. See also my explanation to "asking" for my concern in this matter in post #50.

Please tell us what actually happened to your cousin.

:)

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[colbtech]

WELCOME TO EXIT MUNDI: A COLLECTION OF END-OF-WORLD SCENARIOS

[Credendovidis]

WELCOME TO EXIT MUNDI

An extremely interesting and actually funny collection of doom scenario's ! Well worth free reading on that website! I know Maarten Keulemans very well. Excellent journalist and writer !

:)

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[asking]

I like the one about the attacks on the Y chromosome. Very funny, although I would take it with a grain of salt. :)

[N0help4u]

And my explanation was that from ''a religious point of view'' it ain't gonna happen.
Man is using much more sneaky deceptive forms to destroy the earth and the population. IF by the time they would do the CERN it is going to be the very end Biblically anyway and they will already have the population down to under 2/3rds of what it is. IF they do not use any thing like CERN they will just continuing destroying the earth and population as they are already.

Then I take it you did not see this post. #44.

Your original question was end-of-times later today from a religious point of view?
I replied NO # 42 and explained why it will be years from now (but I believe within the next generation) from a Biblical point of view.

What I am saying is that the 'the system' is not being honest with us. Look at what they did to the Tuskegee airmen, agent orange and other things. They are hooking American's on drugs and other things and saying it is good for them when it is what is actually killing us. Think about this and really see the possibly, American's go to the doctor because they have a heart problem, kidney problem whatever. They get the medicines. Go back for problems with the meds so the doctor prescribes more meds to counteract the side effects. Eventually they are a walking medicine cabinet. They end up dying.The cause of death is ruled their original ailment and NOT that the meds killed them. Look at the Vioxx and all the hundreds of class action lawsuits against the pharmaceutical industries in the past few years.
So I am saying they ARE quite capable of killing off billions through sneakier methods without resorting to your CERN post.


Coumadin? Is It Bad Stuff?


My cousin died from Coumadin
Coumadin is warfarin, the main ingredient in rat
Poison. It is not just a harmless little
Pill, there are very real risks involved in treating with
It.

[Credendovidis]

My cousin died from Coumadin. Coumadin is warfarin, the main ingredient in rat poison. it is not just a harmless little pill, there are very real risks involved in treating with it.

Hundreds of Millions of people daily take Coumadin, and it saves their lives. An essential medicin for many people with heart problems and/or vascular disease.
Of course an overdosis is dangerous, requiring immediate intake of vitamin K.
But than : even an overdosis of asperine can be deadly.

How could your cousin die from Coumadin (I specially ask as you used that point in view of some serious dangers from science research)

:)

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[N0help4u]

So if millions die that is okay because it saves millions

Any way that was not the point of what I was getting at
The point is if they want to kill us they will because they CAN at any time start putting stuff in our foods and medicines that do kill us by the billions and not the millions.
They could find more natural things that actually get to the root of the problem rather than masking the problem and then claiming they died from the ailment instead of the medicine. I cured my dog of cancer with herbal treatments alone so why is that so complicated for the drug industry? Instead they want to push their meds because it is a multi million dollar industry.

Really I have to ask myself why so many people are being given so many prescriptions?
It doesn't seem normal that people should have to rely on 16 to 20 meds to live a poor quality of life. Something doesn't sound right with it and nobody seems to care.

[Alty]

I have often wondered about that too NoHelp. Are medicines helpful or harmful. Take the cure for Cancer, radiation treatment, Chemotherapy, and more drugs than you can shake a stick at. I lost two parents to cancer. This disease is horrible, but the drugs, the "cure" are almost worse.

Around 1 month before my mother died we went to an herbalist, he was also a pulse reader. He claimed that every illness that's in your body can be found through your pulse. I don't know how, or why, but we decided to give it a try. I was extremely skeptical, I told my mother that we'd go, but not to say anything about her health, let's see if he can figure out what's wrong. Well, I was amazed, he sat for 5 minutes with my mothers arm in his hand, feeling her pulse. He looked at her and said, you are dying, there is infection in your bones, lungs, breasts, brain, even in your blood. Your entire body is shutting down, you won't last a month. The only thing he got wrong, at that time, was that my mothers cancer hadn't spread to her brain, well, 1 week later we found out differently. In other words, he was right.

He said he could treat her, that he could give her a shot at survival, but that she'd have to stop the chemotherapy and all the other drugs, take his natural herbs instead. We thought about it, we really did, but we believed in modern medicine and we were too afraid to try something else.

Of course my mother died. I often wonder, would she still be alive if we had done what he said?